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Either of those tests are likely to, meaning Sweetspot ends up being threshold work.
But.....I'd wager that going into 3 x 20mins untrained is probably more of the issue?!
tbf I think doing the Ramp in TR for then doing TR workouts makes sense. How useful the number it gives you for outside riding I don't know, but have never used it.
@dbr i'll let you know tomorrow!
Is the trainerroad ramp rest likely to overestimate FTP? I have used the two by 8 minute test in the past, which seemed to produce a reasonable estimate for FTP .
I'm completely untrained and did ramp test on Friday, followed by sweet spot 3 x 20 minutes (carillon +2) on Saturday. It was all sub FTP, but I was in the red (95% of max heart rate) by halfway through the second set. Had to drop to 95% of FTP for the third set.