• First off, I was quoting from the article.

    Secondly, whilst I take your point, I genuinely think this phrase is related to singing out of tune rather than towards people with hearing impairments.

    But happy to refrain from using this expression out of context in the future.

  • First off, I was quoting from the article.

    In hindsight, I should have checked, sorry for jumping on like that.

    Even with that, it still a problematic phrase to use toward those who sing out of tune.

  • Don't apologise, Ed. It's fine to call it out if you think it's a derogatory comment. I'd not considered it previously, so it made me reflect and think about how it's used and whether that use is wrong.

  • Problematic because of the use of 'deaf' in the phrase, or because you shouldn't single people out for being unable to hold a tune?

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