Chat about Novel Coronavirus - 2019-nCoV - COVID-19

Lol. It's nonsense

I am more of a grana padano guy

Like missile attack if you're old.

Rambling on about shaking hands now, the useless ballbag.

My girlfriend suggested that if the virus only attacked fat selfish chavs who can not cook we would all have food on our shelves.

It would be cool if the virus killed off everyone who say "chavs".

There's plenty of nutty conspiracy theories flying round about COVID too.

There's that Dunkirk spirit.

absolutely, but again, none of these are shaping policy response so I'm more inclined to lay any resulting non-compliance at the door of facebook and twitter for giving a platform to them as opposed to scientific debate over quite a contentious policy that departs from International standards. It's not like all the Karens that are going to fail to comply and opt for rubbing their aged parents with jade eggs and horseradish are doing it because the head of the WHO thinks Boris is an inept wanker?

I’ll spell it out for you , they’ve gone down post lockdown.

Doesn’t mean they have beat it.

After the battle.

Stats are gonna be pretty embarrassing for UK. :o$

We already level with Japan for deaths.

It's just the (assumed facetious) comparison to Brexit I was questioning. Brexit you can say whatever you want because there's no consequences. JRM orchestrated it so he could lock up young virgins and drink their blood. Couldn't do it before, human rights.

On public health a responsible person will think before they speak. But obviously it's perfectly fine to question the policy in a considered manner.

Oh irony.

https://twitter.com/leftiestats/status/1238611490921484295?s=21

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Trouble I have with decrying UK’s approach is I don’t see what gain there is from getting it wrong?
Cobra broke after Ireland’s announcement, would have been easy to change and fall in line with that.

Also I think from chatting to friends peoples opinion on how it is going is strongly framed by what they accept as a possible end outcome. I.e. a best and worst case scenario

Phasing?

You could teach English as a foreign language to Chinese students via Zoom/similar, seems to be a handy way of making money for those stuck indoors

I work in a London language school. Our student numbers are plummeting from all parts of the world, with lots finishing their courses early and new students cancelling altogether. Teachers are having Zoom training next week in fact.

I disagree that there are no consequences with Brexit. Public opinion has and will continue to be shaped by purposeful misinformation drip fed over years and months to a gullible public, for people to say that questioning government policy undermines the success of the Brexit process is disingenuous nonsense designed to silence dissent. People have been saying whatever they want with no consequences personally, but with huge consequences to our society and with explicit implications for security and disaster management as we're now seeing in real time.

For people to then turn round and say you're not allowed to criticise a pandemic response because of non-compliance is just batshit-even resource poor Haiti has a more intensive testing regime than the USA at the moment. Pointing that out doesn't mean tinkerbell will croak.

Brexit shortages combined with a mis-managed pandemic would be absolute chaos and would see us in a similar situation to Iran who are under sanctions, so I guess we're lucky it's happened this year rather than next.

I don’t see what gain there is from getting it wrong?

Reduced social security and pension obligations? That's what right wing hawks have been keen to point out as the potential silver lining in the Torygraph...

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/viruses/types.htm

Of the 4 subtypes(ABCD) only 131 strains of A have been discovered, those 131 can be further broken down into clades and sub-clades ending up with endless possibilities for mutation.

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-taiwan-case-study-rapid-response-containment-2020-3?amp&utm_source=reddit.com&r=US&IR=T

From those that vote for them...?

maybe they just assume the ones that vote for them are covered by Bupa, whereas the povvos have to rely on the downtrodden NHS resource?

I would like to reiterate everything @bikes_knob 's wife said via him and refer back to what I posted this morning which supports it

https://microcosm.app/out/ZX8Zh

In that thread is an explanation why containment like Italy might not work, and at the top even acknowledges that the UK's method has a higher level of risk but with greater "pay back" if it plays out as expected.

I can certainly agree that the cynics, myself included, might think that that our method/plan in the UK being very different to all other countries is a bit suspicious, but there is clear rationale behind it.

Was this a poll about “do you want an involuntary euthanasia lottery after the age of 65?”

Don’t think private covers ICU, but I stand to be corrected?