Chat about Novel Coronavirus - 2019-nCoV - COVID-19

fnar

Harsh. You did mean the US-made Belgian sniper rifle right?

Premier League games postponed until April 3.

Oh, it was like that at 630. Three self checkout tils, it took me 30 minutes to pay and leave, all the while seething over everyone's horrendous purchases, including my own. Baby (me) needed his bottle (coffee) though.

I came back from Sainsbury's last night with my last shred of respect for humanity in tatters. I genuinely just needed one bar of soap as we've run out, some cat food, and a bag of flour.

I watched people running round the shops, clearing shelves of anything they deemed would be needed for a lockdown situation. So, there was no flour, no catfood, no soap. No beer, soup, popcorn, frozen veg, pasta or loo roll. I watched one man buying 40 LITRES of olive oil - I have so many questions after seeing that.

There was, bizarrely, absolutely fucking loads of cake though. I'm happy eating cake for a couple of months if that's what the selfishness of some people will cause.

Sorry for a slow reply. Also @Fox
You have correctly called me out for incorrectly using the absolute. Nothing in medicine is Always or Never. For this I apologize.
However- what I had meant- is from clinical experience, and a vague understanding of the complex pathophysiological and physiological differences between adults and children, I would (as does the vaccination program) always see children as an at-risk group from respiratory infectious diseases.
They are likely to represent a large number (25% of all primary care appointments), and though they often do well- even when 'in extremis'- we have a truism in medicine which is that Kids do nothing slowly- so deterioration or recovery happens at a rate that can be quite shocking.
I have read the CMO's highlights (we are receiving daily briefings), but as always- I prefer primary sources- hence the above article posted.

To sum up:
I am not suggesting that you should treat it as an impending threat to your children.
CONJECTURE
I do however think that the low numbers suggest that there is flawed data gathering/analysis, skewing to a more frightening set of figures in one category and an understatement of another. /CONJECTURE.

I've been coughing for hours and I've been short of breath.

Should I go to the GP?

I mean, it's stopped now I'm off the turbo trainer.

Oh, how we laughed.

Prog on later r4 with bods that Know

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000g3­gf

Listened until 0:37 when the presenter said something like "dealing with blablablaa is a COMPLEX ECOSYSTEM. Puked on cock and switched off.

Give us the highlights then please.

My wife and I both had a very nasty virus about 3 weeks before all this blew up - beginning of Feb I think. I had it first and it was nasty, she had it after me and worse - her temperature went briefly over 39 degrees at one point. Took a long time to get over - my white blood cell count still hadn't properly recovered last time I had a blood test about 3 weeks ago.

I don't think we had any contact with anyone who could have had it but it has made us wonder, especially as China aren't exactly open and forthcoming with information.

My wife had a tooth extracted earlier this week so I went to get her some ibuprofen. Boots had sold out of all but their posh version and all paracetamol. Sainsbury's was completely out of all ibuprofen, with a few packs of cheap paracetamol left. Waitrose was cleared out of everything. Was genuinely bizarre. Got some Cuprofen from the chemist in the end.

I went Asda Eastlands yesterday, empty shelves for:

1. Loo Roll
   
2. Vitamins
   
3. Painkillers
   
4. Pasta (bit not to be of tomato or chickpeas)
   
   

I only got pics of 1 & 4.

Edit: The Glam Gloves don't seem to be very popular either.

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A friend and his wife had something similar. His cough was so bad he broke a rib, proper X-ray job. He's absolutely convinced it was this virus, although wasn't tested for it.

He told me this while still recovering from it, after hugging me...

Me and my wife were exactly the same a few weeks ago. I’ve had a flu jab through work, she is too afraid of needles to get one. Doubt it was flu because vaccination, seemed too full on to be a cold, if it had been corona though wouldn’t there be more fall out from us having it? I don’t know...

Not an option: https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.formula-1-fia-and-agpc-announce-cancellation-of-the-2020-australian-grand.KKpXZDcd77WbO6T0MGoO7.html

;)

I also had really bad flu a couple of weeks ago. 3 days of temp 40+, 2 days being completely unable to move in bed, pain when breathing in. Even now, two weeks later, I still have bad cough and fatigue. I only remember being that ill once before.

I said flu, as I figured the probability of it being covid19 was incredibly low, but who knows? As they were only testing those with contact with confirmed cases or travel to an affected country the number of undiagnosed cases could be massive (speculation, not data).

I see what you did there... :)

I've been absolutely fine all 2020. Hurt my back shifting some rubble at the weekend, but that's much better now.

Am I doing it right?

No, no, no.

Less spunk, more sputum please.

You need to rectify this by fighting geese with a toilet roll.

The more I read and reflect on UK government approach, the more I'm persuaded that maybe they are right to grasp the nettle now. If you accept the genie is out of the bottle and it will re-emerge even in countries taking strong counter measures now once they are relaxed, then ultimately herd immunity is the only way forward. It feels like it is going to be a rough road though.

Haven't heard this in YEARS!
Big lol here

This is pretty much where I’m at.

some medical expert kept saying on radio 4 last night we needed people to be affected to build up long term resistance to corona virus, does that mean we can expect more variations of this flu in years to come, worse more dangerous versions and we need to have some kind of tolerance

SARS and MERS were apparently somewhat similar coronaviruses too. So even if you'd be immune to this, the next version of the virus is probably just different enough. But apparently herd immunity is the way to get through this pandemia indeed.