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Netakure in reply to @peter_v

All cheaper steel frames come with flat mounts. Genesis, brother, surly, etc. I guess it's cheaper to weld an IS mount to two tubes than to manufacture one with flat mounts.

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Belagerent in reply to @Netakure

I feel like I read something from either the fairlight or mason designer about how flat mount is a huge PITA compared to IS mount when you're dealing with the manufacturing of steel frames. because of tolerances etc

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PhilDAS in reply to @Belagerent

Which is good for the customer.

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