Gravel / Gravé / Gnarmac / Groad / ATB

I'm very old now.

Although, there are faster older people than me.

Andy is older and faster than all of us

https://www.evanscycles.com/pinnacle-arkose-2018-adventure-road-frameset-EV326022

PSA, S and M Arkose framesets, £225 inc all-carbon fork.

Hmmm was holding out for a Ribble CGR Al, not a fan of the green but that's seriously tempting for 1/3 the price!

Just paint it.

So 4700 STI (10 speed) will work with 11 speed rear mech on a 10 speed cassette?

Yup, 4700 have the same cable pull as the rest of the 11 speed groupset.

(I ran an Shimano MTB 11 speed derailleur converted with Shiftmate to 11 speed road cable pull on a Tiagra RS405 10 speed shifter).

I'd think 38 with 11-34 should do it right?

Biggest cassette possible, since you have to get a new derailleur anyway (105 R7000 GS, they can be found for less than asking price) with the 11 speed bar end shifter, I'd go for 11-40t* cassette.

*especially if your bike does not allow normal 11 speed cassette on the wheel, as the 11-34 and up required a spacer on a 11 speed freehubs body.

Is the rear brake flat mount?

Yup!

I'd go for 11-40t cassette.

The gaps, Ed, think of the gaps!

Dura ace TT
R7000 GS medium (will short work?)
Slx m7000 11-40w
105 11 SPD chain

?

how about

10 speed bar end
non shadow XT rear mech
10 speed cassette

I think that version of XT will work with 6700/5700/7900 shifters too

Unless eBay is buy it now I can't be fucked with auctions.

(Edit: sorry, had just got into work after running. What I mean is I've never had much luck with eBay, so i tend to avoid it)

Short derailleur may not work, claim a max of 32t meaning it’s possible it may not work well with 11-36 even.

The gaps, Ed, think of the gaps!

10 speed 11-28;
11-12-13-14-15-17-19-21-24-28

11 speed 11-40;
11-13-15-17-19-21-24-27-31-35-40.

Gap remain the same between 15-24 on the 11 speed and those range are usually pretty where most people* ride on.
Also 11-27 on the 11 speed is almost identical to an 8 speed 11-28 (11-13-15-17-19-21-24-28).

*except for Chalfie, who’s old as fuck.

Fucking hell. Looks like I won a pair of shifters for £20

10 speed here we go!

That was just for ref, i could have give you some for free :(

The setup amey posted is basically what i've had on my surly for years and it's been great. 10sp is so much more affordable.

I SHAKE MY FIST IN YOUR FACE.

What else do you have I could have for free/buy you a contribution to your life?

I need to make a thread; watch this space.

There is already one freecycle thread i have posted btw.

Ah. All your stuff has been dibbsed.

Look like you can just get away with a cheap 9 speed long cage MTB derailleur and 11-40 10 speed cassette.

Like the m370 Altus super long cage that cost £12.99 on Wiggle.