• From what I can see, lots of people are attracted to KZ stuff, based on the fact that they take design cues from high end IEMs from the likes of Campfire, and many of these people seem to be new to IEMs. Not to poo poo their opinions, but I doubt they have as much experience with IEMs as people who praise T2s. I'd probably skip 'em to be honest and go for the T2.

    The biggest thing for me though is Tin's parent company, Linsoul, are putting some really great stuff out. They seem to be far more HiFi orientated than KZ. KZ are very guilty of just throwing as many drivers into their IEMs as possible to give you perceived value, but they're not tuning the IEM itself which means their response graphs are all over the shop. They're selling a 12 driver IEM for less than $100 and rumor has it they sound like total dog shit.

    Tin on the other hand are actually tuning their IEMs according to feedback from people in the community and real world usage. Tin's for me all day.

  • Like @Fox I have great memories of Shure e2cs back when IEMs were aimed almost entirely at musicians. I then had some Klipsch S4i's which were a bit less clunky but died quickly, along with their warranty replacements.
    Then apple started including not-horrible earphones with phones and I didn't need the isolation any more...

    Would you say the current crop of IEMs are aimed more at hi-fi listeners or musicians? Obvs there's a load of crossover but things like cable routing/weight/staying put/movement noise become much more important.

    I'd quite like a set for stage use but if Shure aren't any good any more I'm a bit lost!

  • Thanks, I think I'm sold :)

    Especially because even if the KZ's sound good, everyone agrees the cables and buds are dog shit. The recommended cable seems to be £40 and add a tenner for some Comply tips and that's £50 on top of £42 and they end up a lot pricier.

    Also they're kinda fugly tbh and MMCX seems like a better cable format.

  • They're selling a 12 driver IEM for less than $100 and rumor has it they sound like total dog shit.

    Head-fi review went up today funnily enough:
    https://www.head-fi.org/showcase/kz-zsx.23948/reviews

    This review has a comparison with the T2s:
    https://primeaudio.org/kz-zsx-earphone-review/

    if you love bass plus a clean sound and micro details, the ZSX would be the one to get and if you want a very natural and musical tone, the T2 is still the one to beat in the budget segment.

    I think I'd prefer natural and musical although I would like to hear both.

    Also find the ZSX ugly, they look like those Belgian chocolate seashells...

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