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• #23352
politically, it does not make a whole lot of sense for BJ to martyr himself in pursuit of an illegal no deal brexit. it may motivate the leavey-brexity part of his coalition, but it will undoubtedly alienate the LD-remainy part of the conservatives' electoral coalition... who will think he has gone off the deep end, if they don't already.
in fact, if he intends to continue to ratchet things up like this then he's going to have to figure out how to put on enough votes to replace those he loses to the LDs and the SNP...
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• #23353
Amber Rudd goes:
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• #23354
Bugger, I was hoping she resigned from the DWP.
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• #23355
Oh she is! excellent news.
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• #23356
The Sunday Times interview is going to be interesting.
This also blows the Sunday Papers front pages up, which is apparently one of the things that de Peffel Johnson's team had been working hard to get looking good for them. Seems they think tory MPs read the Sunday papers.
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• #23357
Amber Rudd gone too now.
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• #23359
What a fucked country, its politics a true reflection of its populace...
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• #23360
Fat and uncultured?
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• #23361
mmmmmmm that's the tea
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• #23362
Do not read the comments ðŸ˜
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• #23363
HousecatHST
This is worth a read. Dominic Cumming on the Tories and Brexit.
Is weird that I haven't read this thread in years and the first page I see is a post from a year ago about an article by THE now NOTORIOUS Dominic Cummings.
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• #23364
I hope the Torys are doomed to the outer darkness of politics forever after this, with the Brexit party taking their place and proving to be the shower of incompetent cunts that UKIP were.
Latest polls put the Tories 10% over Labour.
Fuck me I'm glad I fucked off out of this fucking country.
Then I remember the biggest party here in Finland are the 'Basic Finns' who are a far right populist party. Fortunately here biggest party means 20%.
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• #23365
The private company, Brexit Party have less now, probably because they’re moving back to the Conservative
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• #23366
Rudd had a majority in 2017 of just 436.
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• #23367
A tale of two Smiths it appears - Angela Smith has just defected to the LD's and Julian Smith is under "resignation watch", and expected to go shortly.
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• #23368
No deal? No problem!
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• #23369
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• #23370
Amber Rudd is no loss to politics. I suspect neither are the others, but it all depends on who takes their places. Obviously.
As I'm sure everyone remembers, the last time there was a general election, Labour were 20% behind when the campaign began. I imagine this time around the Tories (or what's left of them) will attempt to run a near-100% attack campaign against Labour (as opposed to a 'positive' campaign centred around the towering figure of the, er, Prime Maynister). It'll be nasty and unedifying in some ways.
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• #23371
he [Johnson] intends to continue to ratchet things up like this then he's going to have to figure out how to put on enough votes to replace those he loses to the LDs and the SNP...
Well ... Cummings will make the calculation. Labour are also vulnerable to lose votes to the LDs, SNP the comparatively the Brexit Party too. In a GE dispassionate swing voters are key and it's often the clearest (simplistic?) campaign that cuts through.
Boris is so far right now only the DUP and BP are possible coalition partners?
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• #23372
I think it'll be a contest of coalitions - if BXP and Tories have an agreement (and some are saying that this is a done deal) whilst Labour, LD and SNP don't then it'll be a Johnson win.
If Labour/LD/SNP manage to come to an agreement and campaign for something less confusing than Labour's "we'll get a better deal from Brussels and then campaign against it in a second referendum" AND the alliance of BXP and Tory drives the last of the centre-right away, then it'll be the end of Johnson (and maybe Keir Starmer as Prime Minister?)
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• #23373
Not if momentum have their way
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• #23374
That would be an interesting move, following the first Labour MP that just got her deselection triggered having had it done due in part to her membership of Jewish Friends of Israel.
Where interesting means incredibly fucking stupid.
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• #23375
From Carole Cadwalladr:
The colourful tales about Cummings are all noise drowning the key fact about him, which should be front and centre in every report: that this is the man who – according to evidence published by the Electoral Commission – played a central role in a scheme that resulted in Vote Leave being judged to have broken the law. A scheme that constitutes the greatest electoral fraud perpetrated in Britain for more than a century – one that Cummings has refused to come before parliament to answer questions about.
So that is where we are now: where the man advising the prime minister in parliament was previously judged to have been in contempt of that same parliament.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/07/smash-and-grab-dominic-cummings-democracy
Yup. It is Yes, Prime Minister, but less well-written and believable...