Please report dangerous drivers to the police - Roadsafe. Report to plod, not just whinge here.

Went to the shop this afternoon, had chat with laddo, we've kissed and made up. Hopefully the end of it. It's been good to reflect on my own behaviour, i need to let more of it go and stop trying to police the road -calling out close passers and mobile users. We'll see

I'd have thought almost killing you and your child was grounds enough to get a bit angry.

Peter Wright, 73, was struck and killed on his bike by an HGV driver on drugs in May, Portman Square. The driver's just been sentenced. As far as I can see, Mr Wright's death wasn't reported anywhere other than this tweet from The Met which doesn't bother to name him:

https://twitter.com/MPSRTPC/status/1156613711454494721

No newspaper reports on the inquest or sentencing. Nothing, anywhere. RIP Mr Wright.

Because he won't serve the full term of the sentence in prison. He'll likely be let out on licence with a tag.

Someone better versed in these things can explain properly and correct where I'm wrong.

Distressing news, and very unusual for a death. Do you want to start a 'Rider down' thread?

Edit: This was not in 2019, but in 2018--you posted in the thread a month ago:

https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/321443/

Isn't it this one, Oliver?

https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/321443/#comment14842378

There is one for Mr Wright, I didn't feel comments about the media response were suitable there so I thought I'd mention it here:

https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/321443/#comment14842378

Yes, I've only just noticed that. The police Tweet gives the wrong date.

Hm. The name given in the original Standard article is John Wright, not Peter. Also, there were at least two Standard articles about the incident, which have both been posted in the thread. There definitely seems to be a shortage of reporting of the sentencing, assuming his name is John Wright and not Peter, but I suppose his name must be stated in court documents.

Zero reports on the conviction, I should have said:

https://twitter.com/AsEasyAsRiding/status/1166383861133189126

Yes. It seems to me that there's a good deal of Twitter-generated confusion about this. Let's hope this *is* reported on by proper journalists at some point. For the time being, I'll assume he was called John Wright.

I'm not sure who maintains this but I was going by:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oBZ-aQWBdrYT0NM40KVAKz0ei3xQEbX3hJccnBr5JT8/pub

Yes, I'm aware of that (and Charlie linked to it in the thread), but I wouldn't consider it a reliable source without knowing where its information came from. As I said, there may well be court documents that could be considered a reliable source, and maybe the author of 'Cycling Intelligence' took the information from them.

It's amazing that there isn't even a reliable database of victims. I know the police figures are disputed, fatalities get missed out.

I used to be very critical of (what I knew of) the STATS19 database. However, since then I've looked at systems in other European countries, and it turns out that STATS19 is pretty much the best of the lot. Yes, it has under-reporting (very, very high for slight injuries, quite considerable for serious injuries, although *very* rare for fatal injuries), but that is much worse in all the other European countries that I've studied. In some countries, there's even a huge shortfall in the registration of deaths.

STATS19 can and should be improved (better training for officers at the scene, different reporting categories (although this would then create a break in data continuity), etc.), but as ever the main problem is the extent to which it is seen as gospel by some and the 'crash-chasing' of using it as evidence for design 'improvements', which often results in worse and counter-productive designs.

I thought driving bans didn't start until you'd finished your sentence, so they're in addition to that? (Not sure whether time out on license is added to the ban.)

It seems the answer is sort of - https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/explanatory-material/magistrates-court/item/road-traffic-offences-disqualification/9-extension-of-disqualification-from-driving-where-custodial-sentence-also-imposed/

For offences committed on or after 13 April 2015, where a court imposes a disqualification in addition to a custodial sentence or a
detention and training order, the court must extend the
disqualification period by one half of the custodial term imposed.
This is to take into account the period the offender will spend in
custody. This will avoid a driving ban expiring, or being
significantly diminished, during the period the offender is in custody
(s 30 Criminal Justice and Courts Act, 2015). Periods of time spent on
remand or subject to an electronically monitored curfew are ignored.

Where a rehabilitation course is completed, any extension period is
disregarded when reducing the ban.

For example where a court imposes a 6 month custodial sentence and a
disqualification period of 12 months, the ban will be extended to 15
months. Where a rehabilitation course is completed, the reduction will
remain at a maximum of 3 months.

Yesterday, on a rural road near Lechlade I was maliciously hassled and then assaulted by a guy driving a "Highway surveying" logo'd car and his passenger.
They drove slowly alongside me, then pulled ahead and slowed to my pace again about 50 yards ahead, then stopped, swung at right angles across the road, forcing me to stop. Driver immediately started to hold his phone up, presumably videoing me, and he and the passenger immediately started giving some really nasty and aggressive verbal abuse.
When he moved forward slightly I tried to go around the car, but he reversed at me, (and missed) then pulled forward again.
As he pulled forward I shot behind him and rode off, knowing full well they'd come after me.
They did, following slowly for a few hundred yards, passenger shouting all sorts of nasty abuse. Then the car pulled alongside, the passenger showered me with lucozade, and the driver swerved at me, although kind of anticipating something I was already hard on the brakes. He missed me, the lucozade didn't.
I was able to cross to the other side of the road when they passed, into a riverside car park full of people, and hid. They came back, spotted me, but then fortunately decided to leave. I got the reg luckily, and reported it, but I can imagine the police will do bugger all.
Utterly terrifying. Heart rate hit a new max.

That's awful.
Glad you could navigate away from it and not escalate anything. Get somewhere relaxing and remember you just got unlucky.
Fingers crossed for police action.

Edit. Was yesterday.

Cunts.

that sounds horrible. Make those fuckers unemployed af.

^ this. Report to employers also. Fuck em.

Hope you’re ok, dude.

Report to employers also.

Sounds like reasonable cause to request the registered keepers details from DVLA to me.

Wow, that's horrendous. Glad you're ok.

Wtf that sounds terrifying.
Wish you'd got video for the police.

Van driver cuts across a lane of traffic without looking, hundreds of fuckwits declare that cyclists filtering nearside are criminals:

https://twitter.com/theJeremyVine/status/1167907691118784512