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If I understand your point it is that Corbyns Labour should have voted through the withdrawal bill, supporting May in order to overcome the DUP and the ERG, as this presents the least worst exit that could be achieved.
That this would be required for May to get the WA through was dictated by Nick Timothy once he’d convinced May to call the snap election and announce her red lines at the Lancaster House speech.
Do you think (even whipped) that Labour MP’s would have done as instructed?
Would Change UK have formed earlier, and taken many more Labour MP’s perhaps?
What remain have lacked is a leader to coalesce around, and a simple message- I think Corbyn might have had a chance to be this leader, but now he has totally fucked it and would lose a third GE if when it’s called.
I’m not sure which way things are going to go now, I still think Johnson will call an early election and I also think he’ll have to put a referendum in it to get an extension- if it’s November onward. What I can’t model in my head is how the votes will split. Maybe we’d end up with another Tory/LD coalition, a referendum and a narrow remain victory, who knows.
I think the Tories will beat Labour in the coming GE, but I don’t know what share of the vote will go to BXP and LD. I think the SNP will sweep Scotland, and they’ll offer a coalition in return for a Scottish Independence referendum- maybe a Lib/Lab/SNP coalition? But I think the price of that would be Corbyn goes.
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If I understand...
Totally correct.
Corbyn was somewhat quiet about his position because it was massively unpopular in his own party. Plus it’s his style. Most MPs and the vast majority of the membership are still hanging on to remain at all costs. He’s only managed to keep them on-side by championing his policy of ‘avoiding No Deal at all costs’ and the ambiguity around a second ref. He didn’t have the authority to effectively whip, plus it’s not his style ... and yeah, it could very easily have torn Labour apart.
So the push for remain has reduced the likelihood of a soft Brexit imho.
Jesus wept. I’m not defending No Deal. I’m illustrating why we got here and suggesting how it might have been avoided. How did you not grasp this?