• I mean it in the sense big L liberalism, the political philosophy. The majority of Conservatives are still liberals, they are just right wing liberals (there’s a Libertarian and Fascist fringe obvs). Left liberals like to pretend the differences they have with right liberals are substantive, but they are in agreement on the main issues - the primacy of property rights and the market, the composition of government, the authority of the state - and agree on more than they disagree. see, for example, the way a left liberal recoils to the warm embrace of a Tory when presented with an actual socialist.

    The term is a useful catch all for the gamut of mainstream/acceptable political opinion in the West. It’s also helpful to distinguish left liberals from the Left, which left liberals often like to imagine themselves as being part of.

  • The term is a useless catch all for the gamut of mainstream/acceptable political opinion you disagree with.

    ftfy

  • I mean, it’s a distinct political philosophy dating back to the Englightenment, but sure, let’s say it doesn’t exist, I’m sure that won’t piss off the historians

    for the gamut of mainstream/acceptable political opinion

    This was v wrongly phrased tho, as Brexit is very clearly now part of the mainstream/acceptable political opinion, and Brexit is obviously a challenge to the liberal order (part of a pretty global phenomenon, which should be unsurprising given how hard that order shat the bed in 2008)

  • The term is a useless catch all for the gamut of mainstream/acceptable political opinion you disagree with.

    ftfy

    Bingo. 'Liberal' in this country is following the usage in the US meaning 'not of my political tribe'. Much loved my people whose political views are mostly political purity posturing, like @Eejit

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