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  • A couple of the guides I use in the Alps are world class alpinists with several first routes on 8000m'ers in the Himalaya. Both find the idea of navigating the Everest circus a huge turn off.

  • “ a huge turn off” classic understatement.....

    Just read that “ heights of madness “ article , unfortunately it backs up my first post .
    For many years climbers frozen solid bodies have been used a way points on the routes up and
    Down the mountain , as it was always to dangerous to recover them , I understand a big effort by both the Chinese and Nepal governments in the last couple of years has been made to recover them .

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