• Other EU countries took massively more refugees (not that they had a choice) while the UK went "we are not in Schengen" and even refused undocumented child refugees.

    It is easy to complain when the main streams go to mainland Europe as the UK is too far out.

    Then there is Windrush, hostile environment, etc.. the UK has structural racism too.

    The refugee deal with Turkey is unacceptable btw and I rather see the UK IN to block any more of that and actually have a positive impact.

  • When I say 'EU immigration policy is a racist horrorshow' I include the UK, as the UK remains part of the EU. I may be anti-EU but that doesn't make me pro-UK. That's a false binary.

    The conversation around immigration when it comes to Europe is very inward looking and back-patting (Hooray for FoM, aren't we progressive!). But its policies towards migration across the Med (returning boat loads of refugees to Libya for instance) are a fucking disgrace. If Trump tried to pull that shit he would rightly be excoriated. Building a wall looks pretty moderate in comparison.

  • I can't disagree that the migration across the Med policies are not just.

    I didn't say you are pro UK.

    The Netherlands got no choice, and things are actually fine. All these scare stories sold by the UK press are just that, my parents live in a city with a large refugee center and the major stood up for a family that was going to be unjustly evicted. The town is behind him.

    And Trump got lots of criticism for separation of children, Australia gets lots of their isolation of refugees on an off shore island.

    The question is really how to change from "fortress Europe / UK / USA / Australia etc. " to "welcome, come on in" because those return policies would not exist if the electorate rejects them. Like Spain which is very refugee friendly.

    I'd like to see the UK play a role in that, at least with the upcoming EU elections we can send refugee friendly MEPs in.

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