• That lady is also an IRA violence apologist. There is provoking people with unpalatable ideas (sometimes necessary) and excusing people dying, and I can only comment on that with swearwords as a journalist got shot on Good Friday in London/Derry.

    The EU dropped the law that bycatch must be dumped so you don't go over quotas. Quotas are a complex and imperfect system, I can imagine that if you see loads of fish one year it is frustrating you can't just catch more. Maybe more input of fisheries is needed? But does she want to fix it or... I don't know what to think.

    I also see leftish calling the EU racist because Freedom of Movement so happens to be mostly white people...cos originally the EU is pretty white. Though that is slowly changing and a black Dutch Muslim person gets the exact same FOM as a white Atheist Dutchie.

    But if he thinks that all the attacks originate in the left, well lol, no. The pull towards nativism in -some- of the Labour leadership is still for fear of losing votes I think. Brexit/UCrap has ruined the conversation.

  • I can imagine that if you see loads of fish one year it is frustrating you can't just catch more.

    (I know this isn't your argument but) Almost certain that any increase in fish stocks is because of quotas allowing a breeding level of fish to return. This view is like a student being on a budget for a month and building up a meager amount of savings, then wondering why they can't just spend all the money the next month and still have the same money the following month as well ...

  • Yep, totally. But I don't know if many fishers are actually given any education on how quotas do work.

    Perhaps the media picks the usual "extremer" opinions, but I get the impression that the people they speak to (and that includes some local politicians) don't grasp much of how quota work.

    I am clearly not an expert either, but it is surprising if the level of knowledge is that low that even such basics are not understood.

    Which would make even MORE cynical to keep spreading half truths to get votes, but hei ho, maybe fisheries woman has some actual good arguments. I don't know of her. [and I am feeling charitable ;)]

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