Cargo Bikes

Looks a bit noodly. Aesthetic/structural desire, I’d want something with beefy tubing.

Looks like pretty decent wall thickness in the this post though..

I spoke to him about it a couple of weeks ago and he seems to have to done a fair amount of testing with it. I think the first batch is spoken for but he mentioned a second one. I didn't manage to take a better picture but you'll get an idea.

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Ah yea looks better there.

I like it, think they look cool. @russmeyer are you going to try and get your name down for that second batch??

Here it is from a diff angle. Sam is a great guy, and does great work. He mentioned a few things he might consider for next time to make it more rigid, but hes happy with the first batch. Rides really nice unloaded :)

This bike is rude!

I'd be interested if he's gonna do a second batch

Ill pass it on

Sent them an email. See what happens.

Who makes these? Been thinking of ways to make an old MTB a better load carrier and something like this would be ideal. Do you think it would be possible to make one with a slightly higher platform for 20/24 inch wheels?

This guy. Just read the thread ;-)

Is the Steps 6100 much better than the 6000. Would it be worth paying more for?

I guess you've read this:

https://ebiketips.road.cc/content/reviews/electric-drive-systems/shimano-steps-e6100-1824

but this little snipet at the bottom tells me that the 6100 is worth the extra.

One thing the hub does that’s very useful is automatically shift down to a low gear when you’re at a standstill, so that when you get going again you’re in the right gear.

I imagine on an eBullitt I'd just stick it full auto and cruse about. Lazy cycling ftw.

Seems both versions allow auto shifting/auto down shifting.

Main difference seems to be longer range.

Whats the price diff?

About £400

Bullitt owners - does anyone on here keep theirs outside?

I'll be keeping mine under a lean-to shed, but just wondered how 'winter-proof' these are stacked next to your more steel workhorse Dutch cargo bikes.

All else the same, steel rusts.

Yes it's near 5 years newer tech. Main reasons for e6100, quieter, more subtle power delivery (was already good), goes further on same battery and forward compatible frame (e6000 uses a different mount method).
Both auto shift and tell you pretty much sane info.
E6000 is a bit cheaper, might be able to swing more discount but there aren't many colour choices left, main thing gong for it, proven reliability, dozens of users have gone 10 to 20k miles without issue, which is always nice to know.

On e6xxx series I don't particularly like the push button shift, good news is you can use the e7/8xxx mechanical style shifter with them, pretty much plug and play

Great, thanks for the advice. 6100 it is.

It shifts down into 1 preset gear when the cranks aren't turning for a specific amount of time, it doesn't automatically shift through the range.

I tried out two electric cargo bikes earlier, for five or ten mins each, along a flat and a local hill, and traffic on junctions.

One is a fancy version of mine, the one that Tern made in conjunction with Xtracycle, with the fold-down handlebars and low back. Bosch motor I believe.

I also tried out the really agricultural basic style one that French Poste use for delivery. Bright yellow, 8Fun rear motor. Headtube mounted front rack, etc.

The Tern was excellent, nice little display with speedo and options for effort, I only used eco and touring, both felt like a good level of aid without going all cray. I should have tried the full assist, but the brakes were like dead-man’s-switches, the tiniest touch and I was skidding the rear and it would have been incredibly easy to endo even with the weight of the bike. As much as I disliked the ergo cockpit, it was otherwise an exceptional machine. Felt quite agile.

The chunky yellow French Poste style bike was a beast, and very different. Firstly it has totally put me off a headtube mounted front rack, or at least one as big as that had. It was distracting even when looking straight ahead. I suppose it is easy to get used to over time, but I already felt a little uncomfortable without any load in it. The super strong front stand was awesome though, I’d love a trolley style stand like that to prop the xtracycle up when stopped. Actual operation of the bike, handling felt good with the larger wheel size and geometry, but it was quite strange that as soon as you put a tiny bit of cadence, the motor really pulled the bike forward. As a result it wasn’t so easy to get a good pace or cadence unless you wanted to just go straight. It was too easy and certainly needed some extra controls to turn down the assistance.

Tl:dr - E-cargo is so so so super easy to ride, but felt a little strange that acceleration was effortless.

Then I had to cycle home on my non e-bike, in the rain, and it felt like shit 😂

Then I had to cycle home on my non e-bike, in the rain, and it felt like shit

Real feels. I build eBikes all day, and commute on a 3x7 conventional bike.