EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

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  • I have taken delivery of an election communication from the Brexit party today.

    Not very impressed, and I wonder why they are sending me their junk.

    Any suggestions on what I should do with it? There is an address of who promoted it - should I send them something back?

  • Rolled in glitter?

  • I’ve just had one as well - and I had the Jehovah’s witnesses round - I don’t know which pack of fairy tales to believe

  • Look what I’ve been accidentally copied into...


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  • If I could do it in a way that didn't come from my main email address... It's arrived via a typo and some email forwarding on a domain I don't have control of any more.

  • tell it to the judge, mister goebels.

  • Dear James,

    Thank you for this. While it is broadly in line with what we discussed frankly I do feel that we need something that looks less like a box of washing powder.

    Yours,

    Etc.

  • This is his twitter:
    https://twitter.com/bellusmentis

    Dare somebody to tweet that at him with some suggested improvements...

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  • At a very local level, I copied it from elsewhere, this is what happened in Burnley, a labour and Brexit supporting town (the B&P are Brexit supporting lib Dems).

    Former Labour Mayor Liz Monk saw her 2015 majority of 450 disappear in Trinity, and lost to the Green party Candidate by 561 votes.

    Another former Labour Mayor, Howard Baker, now standing for the Lib Dems regained Coalclough & Deerplay from Labour by just 30 votes, from the Burnley & Padiham Independents, Labour came in 3rd.

    Labour's John Harbour just retained his Gawthorpe seat, by 9 votes from UKIP's Karen Ingham, his majority in 2015 was 887 !!

    UKIP's Peter Gill comfortably won Hapton with Park,with a majority of 434 from Labour in the seat vacated by Julie Cooper's PA, Joanne Greenwood. The Green Candidate came third ..

    B&P Independent's Lorraine Mehanna defeated Labour's Gail Barton in Rosegrove with Lowerhouse with a 212 majority.

    In Rosehill with Burnleywood, Lib Dem Tracy Kennedy retook the seat for her party from Labour's Margaret Brindle, who defected from the Lib Dems in February 2017, with a majority of 242.

    The closest race was in Whittlefield with Ightenhill, traditionally a Consevative/Lib Dem shootout. The Conservative's Ida Carmichael retired after 21 years service, but the B&P Independent's Emma Payne took the ward with a majority of just 3, from the Green Party's Laura Fisk ( 593 - 590 ). Conservative Don Whittaker came third with 401 votes, whilst the LibDems polled just 59 votes. The retirement of the much liked & respected Coun. Tom Porter in 2018 seems to have hit their vote hard.

    All the other seats remained the same.

  • Doesn't look like the Labour brexiters are happy with the constant fudge in the above areas.

    Or FPTP strikes again... hard to draw any conclusions if the votes are so tight, perhaps more people voted/more people didn't vote...

    Awaiting the NI council elections, we have some Kippers down here, but with the Single Transferrable Vote it is not done in one count. All the counts should be done tomorrow PM.

    Greens/Alliance are doing well, but the big issue here is Green / Orange politics, and it could be a lot of people are just fed up with the constant dumb arguing and are punishing the hardliners.

  • Politicians are amazing in what they try to spin, aren't they?
    General election - vote for Labour was a vote for brexit.
    Local elections - vote for Lib Dems / Green is a vote to get on with brexit.
    Please can journalists just call it out as bollocks.

  • Because said journalists would have to then call themselves out fairly often also. Some of the tripe that gets written and published is unbelievable.

  • True that. Just looked at the Guardian - front, centre, above the fold "Results show voters want a deal on brexit, says Corbyn after Labour suffers heavy losses"

    And in small type in the live update "Conservative net losses pass 1100"

  • Been seeing a lot of that sort of thing today. Isn't it because we all expected the Tories to be wiped out, but only Remain voters expected Labour to take an L, whereas the Labour leadership felt fairly confident they'd build on their seats? (I heard Barry Gardiner on LBC last night predicting 'about 400 extra seats!)

    So it's a case of the Labour losses being a bit more unexpected ergo newsworthy, esp for a left-leaning paper like the Grauniad, rather than a conspiracy?

  • Both TMay and JC are choosing to ignore the fact that London did not vote at all yesterday, (despite what dePfeffel may have claimed). It's all right being exercised about derisory turnouts in the brexitty Shires and the de-industrialised North, but the (biggest) Metropolitan area is being sidelined in the debate.
    When is the cut-off that means the EU elections have to go ahead?

  • Won't somebody think of the Londons.

  • but the (biggest) Metropolitan area is being sidelined in the debate.

    But isn't the point that outside of London's Famous London (well, the Westminster-ers Village) the electorate is broadly ignored, so the local democracy has a chance of at least gaining media attention in all this crapulousness to make the point?

  • Nah. It's all about the s̶h̶i̶t̶e̶s̶ shires nowadays.

  • If the media message for these local elections, were that Tory voters are so exasperated by 10 years of Westminster enforced Austerity they will now even vote LibDem, I would agree with you.
    Instead the BBC are letting the two parties that clearly lost,
    claim they have a mandate that is opposed by all the metropolitan areas.

  • Haven’t read the bbc narrative, will take a look. But clearly torylab denial is evident. Sorry, too knackered now to engage in proper analysis

  • 1,300 seats lost for the Tories. Wow.

    In any logically coherent parallel universe that would have meant May's resignation (as indeed the previous 94 reasons).

  • You said you were accidentally copied into that.
    Has anyone a steer on whether this is a breach of GDPR?

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