The Look family - Look KG196, KG381 & 695 Aerolight

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  • this new version is more 'aero'

    Sold! Will keep an eye out for one on ebay. They're a bit steep on bike24.

  • Standard brexit stuff.

    I paid pretty much the same as bike24, just stupidity and with these 1 1/4 stem doesn't come cheap at all! :(

  • Post -17 stem ride:

    My initial impression was it was a little low down (which was expected from a -10 to -17) but after riding at that position after 3 hours, it was pretty comfortable and surprisingly it kept my seatbones on the saddle and not on the saddle nose. Plus riding at such a extreme position it was pretty cool to also have a flat back on the road bike to give that pro look (whilst riding very slow)

    I must say I was very sceptical as I was for paying a huge amount of money for a bike fit, they do at the end of the day know what they're talking about and IMO it is worth every penny in my books to get you body riding in a comfortable position and to prevent injuries occurring in the future.


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  • Right let’s dust this thread off shall we? It’s been a couple of years since I last posted on the thread (granted it was not excited as the l96 thread) but a lot has happened during these couple of years.

    I’ve taken this amazing bike all over the world and it’s been once adventure after another including many crashes.

    So with so many adventures the old bike has been through its paces and it’s finally taken its toll, most noticeable the carbon wheelset which has gone through many mileage and alps through its life and long story short my black prince brake pads are being eaten every 2-3 rides.

    Hence why I thought it would be good time to overhaul and upgrade the old bike:


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  • The temptation during the year would have to get a brand new bike and start fresh with a disc brake aero bike. However, there is nothing on the market atm has made me once to swap plus as with life responsibilities one currently can’t afford a new bike without probably selling this one to fund it.

    So hence why I decided to replace/build the canyon instead and by starting replace the rims. As I was not willing to splash out on Enve or Zipp prices on rims I decided to head back to Light Bicycle Rims due to the face I wanted to not only rebuild the road wheels but also the track wheels too, plus I was intrigued with their new braking surface design they started to roll out.

    So the idea is to order a set of 45mm deep and 28mm wide rims to be relaced to my CK R45 with CX-rays to get the ball rolling with this rebuild:


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  • So with the addition of rebuilding the wheelset, I also decided to upgrade and recollection certain parts on the bike to compete my OCD of ‘matchy-matchy’, most noticeably is the pro vibe seatpost and handlebars (which I crashed in Japan and replaced them with a temporary aluminium ones)

    Plus after 5 long years with this bike with my best upkeep of keeping it clean and dust free, natural ware and tear happens and I decided to get a new chainset, cassette and chain too.

    But the biggest and I must say most happiness upgrade was finally ditching the garmin and switching over to wahoo. It definitely been a breath of fresh air:


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  • One thing I did notice at my expense when switching over from garmin to wahoo is that do not switch off your device mid ride as this will lose all your date from the start of the ride:


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  • With the new seatpost this was also di2 compatible which meant that my initial set up of having the junction box wedge between the seatpost and battery to still allow reasonable access. However with this new seatpost it basically meant that the Junction box was now push down by both the integrated seatpost and battery, which wasn’t a good idea as the junction box was constantly getting stuck inside the seat tube and the only and unfortunately expensive solution was to get the bar end junction box instead:


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  • Aside from all the issues with the di2 the rest of the bike rebuild went very smoothly. Hubs, pedals and bb was re-greased and new bar tape was added to provide a new fresh-like feel towards contact points when riding the overhaul bike:


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  • Took this newly overhauled bike out this weekend to sort of some minor snags/adjustment and first impression was it definitely feels more planted and stable with the wider rims and even though it’s a little heavier, in my eyes it looks rather stunning and with the current colour scheme my mate pointed out it looks very ‘German’ (her words not mine).

    Even though I do like the new shadow dura ace gear set design I didn’t feel it was a huge upgrade that one could justify or more importantly need at this moment of time maybe I’ll wait another 3 years to see what they bring out then but in the meantime this current DA will do me just fine:


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  • I did notice one thing, (sort of my fuck up) with these massively wider rims of 28mm my TRP callipers are struggling to fit/enagage it’s functionality when pressing the brake levers as there is not much movement, which is not surprising as on the data sheet from TRP the max they can take is 27mm. This is only the issue when the brake pads are brand spanking new and will get better once there is less pad.

    IMO, there is two ways to resolve this is to wear down the pads slowly or get some brake callipers that can take 28mm wide rims and with my limited research the only I can find that would fit are the EE brakes.

    From memory I think @Dammit had a set of these, I have heard mixed reviews on them and for around £500 for a set of brake callipers are they really worth it?


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  • IMO, there is two ways to resolve this is to wear down the pads slowly or get some brake callipers that can take 28mm wide rims and with my limited research the only I can find that would fit are the EE brakes.

    OR, hear me out (no, really), there are pads that are thinner, designed for wider rims like the Shimano R55C4-1, saving you £490.

    Bear in mind that these pads were aimed for their own brakes that are designed to be compatible with wider rims.

  • Worse come to worse, I guess you have to buy some proper Shimano Ultegra brakes.

    Boy you're really good at spending money enough to warrant a new disc brake bike.

  • Eebrakes are great though

  • Eebrakes are great though

    You're like @HoKe without the restrained spending habit.

  • There was this option, but I didn’t understand why you buy pads that’s already half worn for the same money as a brand new set of brakes. Hence I went to buying the black prince.

  • @Tijs in reply to @Señor_Bear:

    Everything @gaston rides has a backwards seat post

    try it : )

  • Did you have a set? We’re they annoying to set up as people said?

  • but I didn’t understand why you buy pads that’s already half worn for the same money as a brand new set of brakes.

    When a pads is half worn, they're likely to have debris stuck in them, the pads groove will be less, it may be worn unevenly, etc.

  • Fuck no, one of the easiest to set. Nokon only though.

  • Thanks, this will be definitely be my next purchase when the black prince wears out. As you said it should save me a few quid from getting a set of ee brakes

  • You could set it up like a disc brake - let the caliper open up fully, pull and tighten cable, and use the barrier adjuster to take up the cable slack.

    This isn't ideas or a recommended solution, but a quick solution for the time being until the pads start to wear in.

  • The answer is disc brakes

  • This pro vibe seatpost confused the hell out of me, as I thought it is like the Ritchey post, however it took me quite a long time to figure out how to till damn saddle to a position I am happy with as the pro vibe used a press system to adjust the post and the Allen key bolt to secure the saddle rail in place. Clever once you figure the damn system out as this allows you to swap different saddles without compromising the saddle angle.

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The Look family - Look KG196, KG381 & 695 Aerolight

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