Rapha, nice but a bit pricey?

Tell them your RCC number.

Yes, have both. Core every bit as comfortable (maybe even more) in terms of the chamois. I think the major different is just overall feel and look of the Pro is a bit more premium.

I'll +1 to what others have said. I have both, and wouldn't buy Pro Team unless it was on sale. If both are at full price I'd always go for core.

I may be going blind, but I can't seem to see women's Core Cargo Bib Shorts, they only have non-bib available. Have they been released and just sold out? If not released, any ideas why females don't get a bib option?

There's no bib option this year for women. Not sure why.

Thank you for that gif^

Never once have I felt the need for pockets on my shorts.

And yet I really want a pair of the cargo shorts. Nice move by Rapha. I’ll just wait until DHB do a copy.

Pedal Ed have also come up with the idea of pockets but it's not exactly a cheap option.

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Why should somebody watch a banana going up and down, myriads of times, during a ride?

Suffering obviously.

Anybody else do a decent coral jersey? Been waiting for Rapha to bring it back but no dice.

Got a Pro team SS one here that has to go. What size are you after??

@Señor_Bear are these specialized purist now?

Yes.

So literally no reason to buy them now

Yeah, that sucks. The Camelback top was the best bit about them.

Same price as the Specialized ones, but better designs/colours available and can be bought as part of a bundle? I agree with @Eamesy though in that the Camelback top is the best available, but at the end of the day, it's just a water bottle...

water bottle bidon

A bidon is just a bottle, a musette is just a bag, and I'm just a philistine.

These are the best of the lot IMO

https://www.rapha.cc/gb/en/shop/pro-team-training-bib-shorts/product/JIB01RGBLW

quite disappointed with this tbh

i see decathlon are doing some cargo bib shorts of their own :O

Sorry. I'll pass on your frustrations.