• i worry that in supporting these people there is a risk that there is an unspoken endorsement of their ideology, that the status quo is the only viable solution, and that once the status quo has been reestablished, then it's back to the business of pissing on the poor and fuck all changes for those that need it the most and then it's brexit all over again in 10 years time and we're all standing here scratching our balls asking "how the hell did this happen?"

    Yeah. I would also be very nervous of aligning in any way with someone like Grieve.

  • Well, he's generally voted against further EU integration, he voted for the referendum and almost always voted against a right to remain for EU nationals already in living in the UK and against UK membership of the EU. So he seems like a pretty bad friend to have on Brexit anyway.

    If he's saying stuff which seems appealing now it's probably like the time he voted consistently for the Iraq war then consistently for an investigation into it...

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