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It’s broken
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"One MP told PoliticsHome: "Brexit has completely split the country and it seems if you don’t support Brexit you are under threat."
So, support Remain/not be a hard Brexiter and get attacked?
Support Brexit and be safe?
Brexiters in court for shouting at MPs?If the softer Brexiters want to have any legitimacy they better put this lot back in the box.
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There really is no amicable solution that is going to appease everyone and tensions are clearly very high. People's opinions have become firmly entrenched and there will be disdain regardless of outcome, it goes without saying that this referendum should never have taken place.
I wonder what ham face is up to these days?
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Aren’t these petitions just the epitome of filter bubbles? Which is part of the reason we were all so shocked that ‘leave’ won in the first place.
Yes
Still, I'd have thought you could use the myriad petitions to gauge how the view is/isn't shifting.
Within each petition you have the breakdown by constituency. Comparing how the percentages within a single petition are weighted relative to the other constituencies in the same petition you should be able to get some idea of how a previously strong leave constituency now compares to a previously strong remain etc.Only from a curiosity point of view, would be too many caveats to be able to claim it was robust
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Not sure I totally understand as I have a 1 year old screaming in my ear, but interesting
https://ukhumanrightsblog.com/2019/03/19/no-deal-brexit-may-be-unlawful-a-view-from-rose-slowe/
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Aren’t these petitions just the epitome of filter bubbles? Which is part of the reason we were all so shocked that ‘leave’ won in the first place.
A petition is a filter by definition. It explicitly asks for a demonstration of support. Complaining that it doesn't include dissenting opinions seems to be missing the point.
Petitions happen because the people organising/signing them know that other views are currently prevailing but wish their view to be heard.
So, no. Even though a lot of people will only have heard of the petition through their own bubble and only see supportive voices, the existence of the petition is a pretty big flag to say "Other people think differently". If some people are too blinkered to see that, it isn't petitions that made them that way.
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I just don't know how she can say this. The referendum was nearly 50/50, there is no evidence that the population has got more behind leaving in the following three years, so saying she speaks for the public as a whole when she patently does not needs calling out.
I didn't listen to her speech - it's too painful - but is she claiming she speaks for the public (wrong, she can't - the public are divided), or that she's trying her best to sort out something intractable for the public (good, or rather, least shit)? You could only claim the later, right?
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Graph of the rate of petition signing at https://odileeds.org/projects/petitions/241584
Map at https://odileeds.org/projects/petitions/?241584 if you like maps. Which I assume everyone does.
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The government are now silencing the masses.
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Yep, I got a reply from Oliver letwin this morning.
“I am therefore firmly persuaded that the job of Parliament under these circumstances is to arrive at a solution that will be accepted by our EU partners and will receive majority support in the House of commons so that we can have a smooth and orderly exit in line with the result of the first referendum but respecting the fact that many people voted to remain, and therefore obtaining, so far as possible, a continuation of the trading relationships that have contributed to our prosperity.”
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I hope you replied that revoking article 50 is the answer.
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I'm interested in what people would think would happen if A50 revocation became a thing. Would the plan then be to agree on what kind of exit could actually be palatable, then trigger it again? Or is it a permanent rejection of the referendum result?
I wonder how we'd get back to business as usual.
If the later, I see it, on a scale of extremity, similar to No Deal.
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From Guardian news ticker:
Theresa May’s Downing Street speech last night may have seemed
baffling to those watching at home but there may be a clue as to its
purpose in how the government social media machine has used the
footage.Soon after she finished talking in Downing Street, the official UK
government Facebook pay began paying to promote a clip of her speaking
under the banner “Brexit: Let’s Get On With It”.The adverts, funded using public money, began running on Facebook last
night and have already been seen at least two million times, according
to the social network’s new advertising disclosure rules.These views do not necessarily mean than a Facebook user bothered to
watch any of the video - but they do mean that they saw a video in
their newsfeed of Theresa May talking alongside the quote “You want
this stage of the Brexit process to be over and done with. I agree. I
am on your side.”Although the sums involved are not enormous - up to £10,000 has been
spent promoting the video since last night - it is another example of
how Facebook ads are being used to put pressure on MPs to back Brexit
by directly targeting MPs. One mysterious group campaigning for a hard
Brexit, which has never revealed its financial backers, has spent
almost half a million pounds on targeted Facebook ads since last
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Someone has put up a live feed of the petition to revoke article 50
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