EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

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  • In somewhat upsetting yet amusing news my new home country have just been voted out the EPP.

    Seems I can't escape this fucking thing if I try.

  • Funnily, reading from the page before last I somehow ended up on the first page of this thread instead of the last one. It took me until post #19 and a post by a deleted account to realise that these posts had been made three years ago.

  • Petition's gone down again. I think it was somewhere around 650K last I saw

  • Yeah, I can't access those petitions either. What were they about?

  • Three years of political discourse and no progress.
    The last couple of years have been very reminiscent of '92-'97,
    when John Major unexpectedly won the '92 GE,
    then realised he had no policies to implement,
    and he had to deal with Tory refuseniks trying to delay the Maastricht Treaty.

  • Nothing important...

  • It's now down for maintenance... Is there a metaphor to be enjoyed here about how government infrastructure can't cope with Brexit demands?

  • I'm off to Calais tomorrow to stock up on booze, tinned cassoulet and jars of fish soup. Did costco last week for gallons of olive oil and various tinned goods etc. The missus has gone a bit bourgeois-prepper.
    (Not a batshit as some of the mumsnet preppers - some of whom are buying the next size up of clothes for their kids, presumably in case Boden shipments get stuck at customs for 9 months).

  • I'd have walked out too to be fair - the fuck is the IG doing in a meeting of that magnitude?!

  • Petition is back online

    https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584

    Tell a friend

  • https://twitter.com/DaftLimmy

    sums it up.
    Having been through indyref, he's bang on the money eh?

  • I hadn't noticed, I quickly spaffed them on an internet wall....

  • he's completely correct

  • starts learning how to throw a knife

  • Is this all a bit theatrical genius and a build up to a last minute revoke and resign?

  • Damn thing keep crashing

  • Revoke A50
    Re-Invoke A50 #takebackcontrol2021
    Resign

    Almost seriously - anything stopping us restarting the countdown by revoking (which we don't need permission for) and then invoking fresh. Apart from it being colossally shambolic of course.

  • Many moons ago she was involved in a local public debate in my home town, where the well known shopping precinct dweller, affectionately known as Crazy Kathy (who used to scream insane ramblings at passing shoppers) tied TM up in knots and beat her in a debate. Crazy Kathy was probably more shrewd that I've made her sound, but even still, TM lost a debate to a person with a learning disability and a drink/drug addiction. I'm not holding out much hope that TM has a higher level, socially responsible masterplan.

  • Aren’t these petitions just the epitome of filter bubbles? Which is part of the reason we were all so shocked that ‘leave’ won in the first place.

  • Another 17m or so and people may take some notice.

    I suppose signing it may make people feel like they're doing something but it won't make any difference.

  • Sure, to understand the true split you'd need to have another referendum...

    I think its the natural reaction to May claiming she speaks for the public - I just don't know how she can say this. The referendum was nearly 50/50, there is no evidence that the population has got more behind leaving in the following three years, so saying she speaks for the public as a whole when she patently does not needs calling out.

    A petition growing at super speeds, plus a massive march at the weekend, is the best way we have at the moment to show politicians that it is not anything like how May is calling it.

    At this point, it only needs to effect the thinking of one or two MPs and therefore be enough to change the course of things. These votes are likely to be on a knife edge. This is the only time I can recall when something like this actually has a chance of significantly influencing political decisions being made right now.

  • Nevermind the fact the website keeps crashing...

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