Musk is a cunt and Tesla are shit

(Responding to posts from the epic fail thread here so as not to take it off topic again)

So do you stand by this post @Stonehedge or is $35k not cheap enough? :P

I still think VW are going the right way with affordable electric cars rather than toys for the 1% like Tesla. The claim that they are expensive because they are first generation and will get cheaper in the future is utter bullshit.

https://www.wired.com/story/tesla-model-3-35000-lyft-ipo-roundup/

Tesla are also closing a lot of their fancy showrooms. I'm less sure this is about democratising electric cars than Musk realising he will make more money by massifying, but the outcome is the same.

Oh and on the tech and ethics of self driving cars, that @andyp was talking about

What happens when a situation arises where the car has to crash, but can either hit the child who has run into the road, or crash into a lorry, almost certainly seriously injuring, and possibly killing, the occupants of the car? The ethics of that one would trouble everyone, not least the engineers writing the algorithm which their management demand saves the car occupants.

The tech is definitely there/will be there but you're right that the problem is ethical: essentially a computer deciding who lives or dies. But objectively most preventable incidents are caused by drivers, so widespread adoption of self driving cars will massively reduce deaths and injuries. It will happen, it's just going to create some real ethical and legislative headaches.