The Vegan Thread

I guess I'll have to go into a Greggs now.

Ckakalaka wrap from Pret today for takeaway lunch. Had to check online for ingredients as I thought it must have been dairy creamy stuff, because no ingredients listed on wrapping and so creamy

Finally bought a pair of the vegan doc martens. Opted for canvas after trying both on and find the fit on the spacious side but v comfortable. At £65 felt like good value too! :)

Re: aquafaba, I had no idea it was a thing until the vegan episode of Bake Off! Since then, my girlfriend has used it to make a vegan bakewell tart (also using coconut oil, another BO revelation) and it was delicious.

Got a link?

Bought them in a real life store (with cash too 😎)

They have a website but the shoes aren’t listed. Might be possible to phone them up?

Ok, cheers :)

Oh hah, didn’t even post a link🤦‍♂️ Sorry...

https://www.legendfootwear.co.uk/

Must be more tired than I think

Edit- dr martens mayport chukka

This just in:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jan/25/heather-mills-to-reopen-former-crisp-factory-as-vegan-food-plant

Mills, who is an animal rights activist and the ex-wife of Sir Paul McCartney, founded VBites in 1993.

I thought that she bought Redwood Foods and renamed it VBites--don't know when Redwood Foods started, but I remember seeing them at festivals, mostly at Kensington Town Hall, as early as the late 1990s, long before they were called VBites.

Has anyone watched Earthlings? Fuck it’s a tough watch. I mean I suppose if you’re already vegan then there’s no need to put yourself through it given you’re already not contributing to the problems it’s shows but I wish everyone else would watch it.
Definitely confirms the notion of if people could see what goes on in farms and slaughterhouses, everyone would be vegetarian/vegan

dr martens mayport chukka

Out of stock everywheres :(

About time it was shown on primetime terrestrial tv...

I have no interest in watching that.

I watched Cowspiracy, which mostly doesn't show cruelty, but I covered my eyes during the duck decapitation scene.

https://www.theguardian.com/food/2019/jan/18/how-do-you-make-tofu-tasty

Do you have these in the UK?

I think they're really tasty in my opinion and not too expensive.

Yes, but not in the shop where I go, and I never buy them elsewhere.

From one of the lesser-known vegan battlefields:

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/jan/12/were-humus-sapiens-the-farmers-who-shun-animal-manure

I read that article back on the 12th.
The only olive precessor I know,
on the Bodrum peninsula in Aegean Turkey,
lets the 'olive cake' dry/polymerise in the relentless sun,
then uses it as the fuel in its solid fuel burner to generate hot water
for the processing and cleaning down.

Returning it to the soil would make a lot of sense.

Has anyone watched Earthlings?

Yea, a few years back.

Have just seen that there is kind-of a sequel, "Unity".
Watched the first few minutes of that and had to turn it off.
Remembered I did cry watching Earthlings back then.

I do think there would be very few people still eating animals if they had a realistic picture about how they are grown, treated, and killed. So I think people ought to get that realistic picture, be it by watching these documentaries or however else. I think they should. I wish they would.
Still having discussions about this with both my parents. I tell them that in my opinion simply taking a plastic box out of a fridge at Lidl, paying 2.99 for it and completely ignoring the whole situation behind it isn't "ok". They just do not get it. They are empathic people, but they really do not "make the connection", to use the term of the vegan society. Maybe it's a tall order for the post-war generation, but still.
So yea I kinda wish everyone would watch these things; not really sure whether you can force-feed empathy to people but seems like a good idea to just show them what the fuck is actually happening behind closed doors - as, quite frankly, everybody just really is fucking ignoring what is happening behind these doors.

Preaching to the choir here I know, sorry.

100% not going to watch that, but I do wish that everybody else (not vegan) would.

That generation is lost. They ramped up consumption and pollution/environmental contamination, so they could give you and I bigger Christmas presents. When you question that, it makes them feel like horrible parents, and they (mine at least) feel like it’s to late for them to change things and go into self pity mode instead of taking responsibility.

Has anyone else experienced that?

I’m looking for opinions on buying vegan products from not 100% vegan companies. Would this bother you?
Ie a Brooks Cambium when they mostly sell leather

I just bought some non leather dms so...

Yeah sure, I’m not saying one way or the other. I’m just looking for opinions from a few people as I have a product idea in mind which would made from environmentally friendly and vegan material however the supplier is likely to produce non vegan product and I wondered what the likely average response would be from the vegan community

No I know, I was kinda letting you know my opinion of it :-), as in i don’t mind per se. I think it’s benefical to support vegan alternatives from all sources to bring about wider change.

Now that you’ve raised the point however you’ve got me thinking about it... if the company had a bad reputation for particularly cruel or inhumane practice then I’d say no, I wouldn’t buy a ‘vegan’ product from them. But where do you draw the line at that. It’s a tough decision for sure