BAUM Ristretto 54

Not di2

So can someone explain to a noob like me why this would be worth €6k? It's a very very nice bike, but the price is clearly beyond 'very very nice', so there should be something that justifies that?

All the subsequent discussion can be condensed to 'subjectivity'.

Do you have a price for frame/fork/seat post? (If you are willing to split the bike up that is)

Thanks!

Can’t believe we’ve got this far without someone mentioning Veblen goods....

Also, isn’t that Stelbel that’s been linked to that everybody is banging on about just the F&F for sale for £2k??

You’d pretty much be knocking on the door of £6k by the time you’d built it up to this spec.

Classy bikes ain’t cheap kids.

Classy bikes ain’t cheap kids.

I don’t think anyone disputes that.

The problem I suspect is more in trying to sell this complete. There is a limited market for these frames as you know and the chances of the build ticking every box for someone who has £6k to burn is pretty low I would wager. Even if things are bang on maybe the bars are too narrow or the cranks too long etc meaning you need to replace them which is a massive ballache and kinda embarrassing for people with £6k to drop on bicycle jewellery.

Tl;dr complete worth less than the value of its parts

Oh yeah, for sure. Selling any bike of this Caliber complete is gonna be a struggle - i’m just not sure why people are saying that Stelbel is cheap in comparison.

You might not feel the difference between an aluminium Pre Cursa or a £2k Look on the track but you’ll ride it knowing the attention to detail and R&D and all sorts that have gone into the frame and that’s what you’ll appreciate?

Gonna be honest, I'd be pretty disappointed if I didn't feel any difference at all there... but basically, what I'm taking away from this thread is that there isn't an actual point in spending that amount of money on a bike beyond being able to and wanting something custom.

But I'm also a bit allergic to the whole 'voodoo' thing in products, all too often it's just a nice story told to increase the perceived value rather than anything tangible. Lots of talk about a 'different league' and 'another level' etc., not much to actually back it up.

Agreed a bike is pretty much 8 tubes of a certain quality welded together. Whether it's history pedigree or pr story thats drags you to a certain builder is anyone's business. However in this case the frame doesn't show the same kind of swag as another popular Baum on here. so to offer it at pretty much rrp minus 10%? is pretty hopeful

From their website:
"Individualised tube diameter and wall thickness selection"
"With tubing selections from Dedacciai, Columbus and Reynolds, we draw from the very best to tailor the frame to your specifications"

I read that as the mix of tubes will be different depending on rider's weight and preferences.

#Brexit prices

If this is your second bike, what's your first bike?

Good luck with your sale!

..seriously?

FESTKA

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Frame / fork / seat post / stem / saddle . 3.250.-€

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can you upload the 'dimension'(size) page?

Yeah, but it's total bullshit.

That's it, you're making me quote Dick Sachs:

Clients call and arrive at your doorstep because you have abilities
and experiences that enable you to translate their information and
construct a frame of higher quality and fine design, material is NOT
part of the equation.

re sized

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festka

Hah I knew it!

Festka ONE Disc / Custom paint

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Stupid thread now.
It’s turning into a look what I own bragfest. Post these kind of things in Vsalon / paceline galleries.
#notjealousoftheamountofmoneyyouappeartohavetospendonbikes

...I'd heard disc brakes are dead? sell the Festka, keep the BAUM - ee FTW!

my bad, did not c the Stelbel was F+F

frame size?