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  • Would you rather not learn to do things properly, and not rely on an accessory?

    I imagine most people would prefer to do things properly. But a belt doesn't add any mechanical advantage to a lift, so I don't see it as improper.

    Its not like a squat suit, or knee sleeves that offer some rebound assistance and help drive the load.

    If a belt let's me keep my back set for longer at higher intensities then so be it. Those cheating reps will be making me stronger overall, which will ultimately be driving my naked strength up too. After all, aren't we trying to lift more than our bodies are designed to lift. That's the whole point of strength training.

  • You said using a belt increases your output by 25%, so the belt has a direct affect.

    Those cheating reps will be making me stronger overall, which will ultimately be driving my naked strength up too.

    The muscles that the belt is compensating for won’t be getting stronger. If you focused on improving these muscles rather than relying on the belt, you wouldn’t need a belt, and you’d be stronger overall.

    Stabalising muscles are exercised by decreasing stability ie making them work harder. A belt has the reverse effect.

  • You post some real BS mate, I am gonna have to ask it..

    Do you even lift, bro

  • You said using a belt increases your output by 25%, so the belt has a direct affect.

    That's not quite what I wrote, or intended to portray.

    "Well I can press 25% more with a belt, compared to the point where the weight makes me mentally think twice"

    Having hurt my back countless times since childhood. Usually sneezing or putting on my socks, I'm possibly over protective of it over 40kg.
    Having previously done some of the remedial massage therapy work and then starting me into strength training, it was my coach that recommended putting on a belt for heavier presses (which have been up to 52kg). Speaking with him tonight, he couldn't understand why you would rather not wear one.

    The muscles that the belt is compensating for won’t be getting stronger.

    Its a 3 or 4" belt, hardly a magical exo skeleton that let's your core do cock all. Your whole kinetic chain is still supporting the load and a heavier load requires more overall muscle power to stabilise and lift.

    In the earlier Art of manliness video, Ripp has Brett put on a belt for the Press. Make of that what you will.

    Tonights session.
    Bench 3x5 @66kg pb
    Deadlift warmup to 110kg beltless
    1@120 then 5@126kg pb

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