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  • I'd rather one decent meal than three sad ones, and I can easily go 'til 3 or 4pm with no food most days.

    I could fuel for performance, sure, but the truth of it is I'll never exercise enough to offset it, and nor do I want to. I have other shit to do.

    I guess outside of smashing some pure whey protein a few times a day I'll just worry about getting re-hench after I hit a decent weight.

  • See Hippy's post below, 2.2 is very high. He recommends 1.6 [though I stick to 2.0 when dieting, and it ain't fun...] but 0.4 gram per kg is really quite low.

    Are you sure is it that low?

    You can also try 1 gram per kg of your desired weight. If you know you carry 20 KG of pure lard, just deduce the lard. That leaves, say, 120 kg - 20 = 100 and 100 grams of protein in one meal is a bit of a A Sit.

    But not impossible. eyes up chicken

    Though you wrote also don't eat a lot of meat... yes, you can eat 100 grams with pulses/seitan/soy but I would not be able to digest that in one sitting I think.

    A combination of a meat/fish and a pulse with some soy/seitan would do it though. But if you are already a picky eater, I think we need to identify first what you like to eat :)

  • Yep, definitely that low. I'm not picky at all, per se, but you'll never catch me eating a dry chicken breast, rice and salad, for instance. Plus my partner is vegan and I only purchase meat to take home if I'm sure of the ethics for it, so in practice I only really eat meat out.

  • I'd rather one decent meal than three sad ones

    I'd rather three good meals than one.

    There's some possible negative consequences to a one-meal-per-day diet:
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0026049507002806
    https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/85/4/981/4648934?searchresult=1

  • You've already mentioned whey which is the obvious one. What about stuff like Quorn?

  • Skyr / Fage are not vegan but high protein
    Seitan is high protein and vegan
    So is soy stuff
    Split peas / lentils are a win you can get easy heat packets if you want to keep stuff at work
    Porridge with one spoon of peanut butter and one scoop of chocolate whey is a staple for me.

    I hate dry chicken breast myself blergh!!! And this macro fussery is not needed in your case. Eat your protein / fruit and veg and take it from there.

    And eat some of what you like.

    Basics first :)

  • Porridge with one spoon of peanut butter and one scoop of chocolate whey is a staple for me.

    Sounds dodgy but I want to try it.

  • Let me know what you think!

  • Got any suggestions for pre-sleep proteinz?

  • I lost 17kg in the last year (still going).

    I increased my protein quite a lot, not in an attempt to get swole but for satiety. I didn’t calorie count or anything but looked to reduce sugar and be aware of calories in things you eat regularly. Portion control is still something I struggle with but I just make sure if I have a big meal day then the next day I consciously eat a bit less. Also the more exercise you do the more you can eat, so I took up running 😬

    Unfortunately i consume a lot of meat and dairy so I cant offer too much help there.

  • I added some Huel as well as usually protein to mine the other day - was great

  • Understand.
    And to be clear. I am only riding low intensity distance non fueled passes on the weekend -mid week trying to get higher intensity (spinning bullshit) interval passes. I am rehabbing a slipped disc now - so trying something new to build up core so I dont fuck myself again and have to be off the bike for extended periods.
    That and I dont have asthma like wiggo so looking for other marginal gains

  • I'm agree with TheHippy, eat more and fuel your rides more. Get the body use to the higher intensities more of the time.

    I'm not a great fan of the fasted rides or bread and water mantra.

  • "But what happens to a noncompetitive-eating body if you shove it full of 50 eggs? "

    It has to htfu?

  • Caffeine - useful for lowering RPE (perceived exertion) so you can work harder.

    Protein - if you're calorie restricted it's good for feeling full as well as helping prevent the loss of lean muscle mass which actually burns cals for you while you're laying about on the sofa wishing you had more food in the house.

    Clenbuterol - jokes ;0)

  • I think it's the nearest toilet that will have to htfu

  • Cottage cheese with its high casein content is good for pre sleep.
    You can get weird flavours, like with pinapples etc.

    Otherwise, kebab.

  • You can get weird flavours, like with pinapples etc.

    Pineapple cottage cheese pizza anyone?

  • How could I forget. Red Dwarf taught me everything..

  • Pineapple

    Never on pizza, NEVER!

  • 5kg down since Lamb Day

  • Couple of interesting further studies from the two lead authors on the effect of intermittent fasting on both obese women and a randomised trial of various obese men. Both showed mild evidence for increased fat loss on an IF diet, but I still haven't found any large trials, or any literature on varying protein intakes combined with dietary restriction.

    At the very least, in all those papers, no evidence for any real health risk, at least.

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