EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

BBCR4 Today reporting ERG will hold its own hustings to ensure the TruBrexiteurs' vote is not split between competing egos.
DePfeffel, Raab or Davis?
Or maybe the return of IDS?

Is this all part of JRM’s plan to weaken the pound and make a killing?

Lame duck Tory leader of a lame duck Tory minority Government fails to sell a Withdrawal Agreement that was the inevitable consequence of her own Lancaster House speech.
Best outcome: May wins vote by about 10-20,
so this Tory-owned shitshow stumbles on.

I’d probably die laughing if she managed to see them off, then lost a vote of no confidence in the Commons and led the Tories into a snap general election.

(I realise this is unlikely but given the amount of unicorn based fantasies in British politics at the moment, I want both my cake and to eat it).

Good news.
David Gauke sent on to the 08.10 Today interview soberly lists the possibilities,
May's Withdrawal Agreement,
crashing out with NoDeal,
or.
No Brexit.
The 3rd option would not have been mentioned a week ago.

I read an interesting series of tweets about other similar situations where things had gone truly wrong, but the participants would not recognise that and carried on as if things were normal/were amenable to standard behaviours- the situations mentioned were Chernobyl and Challenger, cheerfully.

I dont think they will get the required ~150ish votes the need to oust her tonight.

I'm not sure they will either. And I do think a Labour no confidence motion could pass. (So I don't think Andy's prediction/comedy scenario is that extreme).

But this is all crystal ball talk. We'll see!

They don’t need to, as the move against Thatcher proved.

Effectively if she wins, but by a smaller margin than is considered acceptable, then she’ll be expected to resign. At least that would be the case in more normal times. In the current what the actual fuck is going on period, who knows where this will lead.

R4 is making for hilarious listening.
Scenarios that make no sense to anyone.

Gauke also said “In terms of negotiating any type of arrangement with the European Union, I think it is inevitable that if she were to lose the vote tonight there would be need to be a delay in Article 50”.

May on the steps of No. 10: "I will contest that vote with everything I've got".

"A change of leadership in the Conservative party now will put our country's future at risk".

Blah blah blah.

"Nobody left behind"

Get to absolute fuck.

Yeah, it is hateful isn't it?

'Strong and stable', 'Nothing has changed',
we'll look back on these catchphrases with indulgence when she steps down as an MP.

Yep,
All good news.

"create uncertainty". Heaven forbid.

Whilst I have no time for JRM, this line of argument is a load of nonsense. Working in the finance industry, I can assure you that if it were that easy, we'd all be millionaires (spoiler - I'm not!). How exactly do you think he'd 'make a killing'? There are thousands of traders, analysts and algo traders all out there to ensure that any potential gains are hoovered up pretty quickly. I can also assure you that there are very, very few people working in the finance industry who see any potential gains from any Brexit scenario.

I am fuming. What a piece of work.

Gauke also said “In terms of negotiating any type of arrangement with the European Union, I think it is inevitable that if she were to lose the vote tonight there would be need to be a delay in Article 50”.

Yes, he mentioned six months - which is not going to happen due to the European elections, most we'll get is until May.

Whilst I have no time for JRM, this line of argument is a load of nonsense. Working in the finance industry, I can assure you that if it were that easy, we'd all be millionaires (spoiler - I'm not!). How exactly do you think he'd 'make a killing'? There are thousands of traders, analysts and algo traders all out there to ensure that any potential gains are hoovered up pretty quickly. I can also assure you that there are very, very few people working in the finance industry who see any potential gains from any Brexit scenario.

Odey and his famous "short the UK" position?

Anyone can make money from lucky trades in the short term. Clearly you've not seen his more recent performance.

Somewhere within the Oireachtas a secretary is busy freeing up meeting rooms...

. Doh, confused

Wrong bit of Ireland, no?

Which makes no sense after your edit.

On the DUP, they want Brexit don’t they? Removing support for this government is going to increase the chances of no Brexit, so they have to balance that against their own goals.