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Politics isn't so black and white
So you're saying that there could be a side to the Lib Dems forming the coalition that was an utter disaster for the country?
But such what-iffery is pretty much pointless.
Aren't you using a tiny bit of what-iffery to argue what the Tories would and wouldn't have gotten away with had the Lib Dems not joined the coalition?
Sorry if i missed something.
Soul-
It was a reply to greenhell's points.
Firstly, that in spite of the Lib Dems tempering the Tories we still got evil shit X, Y, Z.
Sure, but that's the perfect solution fallacy. Just because the Tories weren't stopped from doing everything evil doesn't mean it was a failure. That's what I meant by "it's not black and white". It's not either a complete success or a complete failure. The Lib Dems stopped the Tories doing a load of evil stuff, but not everything evil.
Aren't you using a tiny bit of what-iffery to argue what the Tories would and wouldn't have gotten away with had the Lib Dems not joined the coalition?
I'm saying it to highlight that the only thing we know is what happened. Everything else is guess work.
The argument from some here seems to be that if the Lib Dems had not gone into coalition with the Tories then the outcome (whatever that would have been) would have magically been better because hindsight. But no-one knows that because it never played out for anyone to see. There are some scenarios where the outcome is better, and some that are worse.
All we know is that they did go into power and they did stop the Tories from pushing through a whole load of evil shit that the Tories wanted to (and eventually pushed through most of it when they next got into power).
Greenbank
Politics isn't so black and white. Again, just because they didn't stop all the evil doesn't mean they didn't stop some of it. It's the Perfect Solution fallacy.
A quick google gives: https://www.markpack.org.uk/129190/what-the-lib-dems-have-stopped-the-tories-doing/
If the Lib Dems had gone into coalition with Labour we'd probably be having a different discussion about how the Lib Dems 'enabled' Labour to do a whole load of different things that people disagree with (probably not as evil as the Tories but that's besides the point, the Tories got in in 2015 and went to town anyway).
Or if no coalition had been formed at all and we'd had a series of GEs because of hung parliaments until, say, the Tories got an overall majority (or got into bed with the DUP even earlier) then some might be complaining about why the Lib Dems didn't take the first chance to go into coalition with them and stem the tide from within.
But such what-iffery is pretty much pointless.