• I hope they come up with something a bit more concrete after the conference, because I understand Olivers point that they need to be vague to allow grassroot voting, but it really gives the impression they are fence sitting or are just Brexiters (hi 3 line whip on article 50)

    All this while their members and voters are remain mostly. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/may/29/labour-mps-fear-brexit-voters-unfounded-study

    The swing/strategic voting crowd is hard to guess, maybe there's some research on that (ashcroft polls?)

  • they need to be vague to allow grassroot voting

    While being strategically vague at this point may be the best option, at some point Labour needs to argue clearly a case for remain, addressing these grass-root people's concern over their jobs, the NHS etc and communicate that it isn't immigrants, but austerity and tory's that are at the root of their problems. They need also to communicate the (self) interest of a small number of rich people in removing the checks and balances that will happen if we crash out of Europe and give people a whiff of chlorinated chicken

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