Sleeping systems - bags, pads, matts, liners

£8 Snugpack has been washed & first use last night with silk liner in just undies*, toasty warm. Bargain.

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@ hippy maybe we could change the title to sleeping systems - bags, mats etc.

Anyway, is this the best 2 person mat? It's kind heavy!

https://www.thermarest.com/mattresses/neoair-camper-duo#

Klymit double V is also pretty good I've heard

I had v before and wasn't so keen on it. Much prefer a flatter profile than ribbed.

Are these decent? If so, does anyone want to go in with me?

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F292703921645

just ordered a warbonnet wookie underquilt and matching mamba top-quilt for my hammock. should see me well into the depths of winter. hopefully with me in next 2-3 weeks tops so i can give it a try before end of sept and autumn kicks up.

Hmm, I might be up for that

Katabatic palisade is better for the cash imo. Incredibly comfy

Does anyone have any opinion on the Mountain Equipment Helium Solo?
I picked one up cheap with a damaged zip. V light but doesn't seem like it will be very useful for UK conditions. Anyone got one?

Georgel, Could you post a link to the one you ordered please as I´m considering the Aegismax route as well but there´s so much out there.

Also, does anybody on here own a Cumulus Quilt 450?

no, but, looking at it:

1. open footbox - imo closed footbox is always better
   
2. 10 year warranty - great!
   
3. where do they source their down from? hope it's not live plucked
   

I thought it was you who recommended Cumulus here in the first place?

they're a decent option if you're on a tight budget
if you use it regularly, worth investing - katabatic palisade or a PHD model for example

1. They do do open ones as well. They call them comforters.
   
2. -
   
3. They say the down is from Poland.
   
   

Don´t see myself dropping Katabatic/PHD amounts of cash.

http://www.trek-lite.com/index.php?threads/considering-getting-a-cumulus-quilt-or-comforter.2781/

https://lighterpacks.com/2015/05/03/new-sleeping-system-cumulus-quilt-250/

just saw this on ebay
would recommend it over the cumulus, or for anyone looking for a nice quilt.
nunatak gear is phenomenally well made.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nunatak-Arc-Alpinist-quilt/123371628650?hash=item1cb985a86a:g:v-8AAOSw8D9bmhw-

Is there a super compact down alternative? A synth bag of some sort that packs super small?

I have the Helium 400. I think the Mountain Equipment rating for a 'good night's sleep' is pretty accurate from my experience.
Solo = 7C
Helium 400 = -5C
I'd say its not warm enough for a lot of UK stuff but hold on to it for when you are sure it will be warm.

no.
synthetic bags will always be noticeable more bulky when packed, compared to a high fill power (800+) down bag of the same temperature rating.

if it's only for summer you could try something like this https://www.ultralightoutdoorgear.co.uk/equipment-c3/sleeping-bags-c21/sleeping-bags-c88/oscar-10-synthetic-sleeping-bag-p9359

I've failed to get my down sleeping bag so wet that it can't dry out or has become a problem so I'd still stick to that unless you plan to tour somewhere unimaginably wet.

So, what I'm now going to work on is designing a synth bag that's better than down. Someone must already be working on this so why isn't there a solution yet? Fucking material scientists, lazy bastards...

£184 is more than the PHD bag I got rid of.

I want something light, small, warm, cheap to go in my bivvy for more comfortable (read: any) sleep.

Fuck it, I'm staying in hotels.

"100% recycled synthetic filling made from post consumer PET bottles"

If it's made from coke bottles it should not cost £180+

starts using vegetable peeler on empty drink bottles

"Packed size compressed 13x15cm" not bad...

a synth bag

TB-303 or gtfo