Mudguards

Way I look at it though is people will happily spend 100 quid on a saddle, or a set of tyres etc, so why not on guards?

Because you don’t get anything more for your money (unlike good saddles, or good tyres)?

Disagree. Ease of fitment and adjustment alone are worth the PDW premium.

In what way are PDWs easier to fit? Are you referring to temporary guards or something?

I didn’t need to cut any stays, obviously this is bike size dependant, but it took me literally five minutes to fit my mudguards. Which is at least an hour less than any other finicky guards I’ve fitted. I also prefer the way they look to plastic mudguards. I have only fitted Bluemel’s and Longboards outside of these.

Ah yes cutting steel stays is a pain. I’ve used a pipe cutter in the past.

The qr eyelets of pdws would be useful to me. But ime guards get knocked about a bit (on trains, when a bike is parked carried or ... um ... dropped) and so the durability of plastic (or chromoplastic) guards is worth more.

I’ll try and reuse my alu stays. They’re light and stiff.

Yeah, they’re really handy. My longboards cracked. These PDWs are dented and have been involved in a crash but they just keep on working. Had to buy some new stays but that was very easy. Horses for courses though, innit. I also got them on trade so that made the cost much more bearable :-)

@miro_o

Did you use the reinforcers they include in the packaging? Makes a big difference.

Velo Orange are also excellent at customer service. When mine split they posted out a replacement straight away.

The leather washers? Yes.

I got a few years out of them.

why doesn't anyone make nice titanium mudguards?

Not the leathers washers, I think he's speaking of the big alu one. Maybe are they included in more recent packages. I had them when I bought mine six months ago.

I don’t think mine had any alu washers.

https://sim.works/collections/fenders-simworks-by-honjo

Oof those are nice. and expensive. cheers

hmmm - discs, thru-axle, no holes on the bridges - what full length mudguards

How was the guard braced at this location?

With the bent-to-fit clamp that fastens to rear brake bolt. It’s pictured here towards the lower right.

The crack appeared about 10mm from the clamp, seat tube side, running across from an edge.

just ordered some 700x60mm mudguards (bluemels) from bike24 - they are only about 21€ which is cheap compared to £38 at Evans.

Can anyone recommend some decent flaps for these guards?

SKS flaps are good

Milk bottle and a pop riveter.

looking to fit some guards to my Pre Cursa for the winter slog since some scally stole my Pomp. I know I could get away with fitting a "proper" mudguard on the rear as there are bolts, but I've seen the crud roadracers on offer for a tenner which seems a good price - what are peoples experiences if any? Just to keep me less drenched during the rainy season we can expect any time soon

get proper mudguards, they better and also cheaper, if you are lazy give it to a bike shop and still its cheaper and better.

Definitely better - I've got a rear I could get on but that leaves me front-less due to forks missing mounting points and being narrow. Ideally, find something like a radial/sks for the front and mount with p-clips. I guess my question would have been better put as - 'how much worse - compared to proper guards'

I had the mk2s. They were good except when I managed to run over twigs. The first time it happened I replaced a snapped arm and the second time the arms ripped out of the holes in the guards turning the holes into open slots, but they were still usable. I hardly ever ride off road and never for long sections so I thought this was pretty unlucky.

They put up with a lot of bending eg carelessly loading into a car. I like that the rear guard has an overlapping section near the chainring. However, the front one is too narrow at the bottom: In heavy rain, water sprays around the guard onto your chainring and toes.

What are the differences between sks longboards, bluemels and chromoplastics? I'm liking the look of the bluemels in the reflective version.

They're going on a pompino if that makes any difference or anyone has any suggestions

I'm just about to replace my Chromoplastics with Longboards. The C's have served me well but only after I fashioned my own mudflaps to be quite a bit longer than the standard ones, which particularly left my feet prone to getting wet when there is lots of surface water, hopefully something which the Longboards will deal with better. Not used Bluemels but looking at them I reckon the Longboards will give better coverage.