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  • You could easily also argue that the Brexit voters you talk about see immigrants as less than them. Even if they are not openly racist, because most people are not.

    Rather than engaging and unionising together immigrants are seen as "the problem". Poor immigrants are ripe for exploitation beyond what the local workforce would accept (which you point out)

    The Greens actually DID say that in some areas, because of a fast influx of immigrants, there was more pressure on services and the gains should be more fairly distributed.

    There are also possibilities to limit immigration under freedom of movement, which can be taken. I understand some of the frustrations as an EU immigrant myself who has had to put up with nearly 2 years of Brexit shit.

    But if somebody cares f-all about if their immigrants colleagues will get problems due to Brexit [and I know there was an immense amount of lying about this by the Brexit team as they promised there would be no issues, which they could not promise as nobody is held to account in referendums] there is a sympathy deficit in response.

    But, perhaps the leave team knew all this. They have exploited the NHS money, take back control promises and immigration lies [turkey? lol] ignoring the anger and anguish that would come when nothing was done.

    And now people that think the bottom was reached may find out there is another cellar under the cellar they are in. The whole thing is massively cynical.

    But I am also fedup as being "part of the problem" all the time. So this is what is has done, we are all pissed off with each other [sometimes for good reason] while Mogg is laughing all the way to his Irish funds.

  • The leave team definitely exploited all of this. It's just a pisser that some political parties, maybe someone like the labour party, didn't recognise this issue and do something about it in the past 20 years or so.

    A lot of these are casual labour, in for a few years and then home again. It's not really a situation conducive to unionising and forming a common front.

  • Fruit picking is definitely casual labour, but nobody wants to do it/can do it due to where they live etc.

    Is casual labour any better though for local people? Cash in hand jobs tend to come with very little protection.

    I am not sure you can "fix it" with restricting immigration" either. The only real problem areas I know about are plumbers/builders etc. that now complain other immigrants do it for less. Lets say immigration is restricted, will building companies all of a sudden play nice?

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