EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

2/10 very poor trolling. At least give it some gusto. Jeez...

All that means is that you have no idea what WTO means, I’d suggest doing some reading.

Although a wise person once said "Never try to explain something to someone who is emotionally invested in their misunderstanding of the thing", so I'm not going to bother educating you.

There's an expression where I'm from:

Don't try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.

Amazing

Amazing-er

Those 4 labour MPs may have just cost their party a general election shot.

I don't think Labour want to have a shot of being in power at the moment. No-one really wants to be left in charge of the shitty stick that is Brexit.

Whichever party is in charge when Brexit (hopefully) gets canned is only going to lose a chunk of its support.

Another wise person once said, just stick them on Ignore.

Do you even interwebz?

^ Ignored.

Me? Why?

He can't hear you.

the usual system

Didn't the Tories ignore this recently?

I believe so. I think actually they said prior to the event they wouldn't use it last time (which was a very shitty thing to do anyway - as we saw ill MPs wheeled into the chamber). But this was different - the whips office said that it would be honoured and they reneged, giving Jo Swinson's side of the vote no opportunity to address the disparity. I don't think many buy this was any kind of 'honest' mistake for one moment - there's obviously not even 'honour among thieves' any more...

EDIT: found article on the last time - https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jun/21/sick-mp-vote-wheelchair-commons-system-archaic

There's a long history of pairing spats. '76 and '96 in particular.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pair_(parliamentary_convention)

It was fundamental to the plot of the play This House that was on a few years ago (and well worth seeing if it comes back on again.)

Andrea Jenkyns: "Can the PM tell me at which point it was decided that Brexit means Remain?"

It sounds like Boris Johnson is hoping his resignation speech will have the same impact that Geoffrey Howe's speech had on Thatcher in the 1980s. Apparently he's even sitting in Geoffrey's seat today.

Obviously, shenanigans like this won't have anything whatsoever to do with why certain people want to damage the EU:

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/jul/18/google-faces-record-multibillion-fine-from-eu-over-android

Crace was rather unimpressed. I'm not usually a fan of his writing but this one seems spot on

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/18/boris-johnsons-fans-wanted-a-roaring-lion-they-got-a-paper-tiger

Maybe they really were better off with May after all. A thought that was as terrifying to them as it is to the rest of the country.

The Ghastly Truth

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/19/brexit-raab-and-barnier-to-meet-as-eu-steps-up-no-deal-warnings

'Davis increasingly avoided press conferences with Barnier, who used the platforms to highlight the deficiencies in the UK’s approach'

Deluded, workshy idiot unable to deal with his defining traits being revealed to the public.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/18/kate-hoey-under-pressure-from-labour-after-siding-with-tories

Raab is barely an improvement, from deluded and workshy to the height of privilege [rich expensive uni man doing the "just work harder" chat] and economic neoliberalism/austerity for the common scum as that is how they see us*

*anybody that doesn't have say half a million in the bank/as shares

can someone explain the whip business to me? why are people calling for the whip to be sacked, due to that cunt hoey not toeing the line? is it because they couldn't convince her?

Not defending his views generally, but I'd be surprised if Raab doesn't have a good work ethic as he was a solicitor at Linklaters - it's essentially a highly skilled sweat shop.

I'd imagine that this experience (working somewhere that values very hard work) probably makes him less tolerant / understanding of those who don't want to work til they bleed, though, which is likely part of the problem