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I think I had Shimano shoes about 10 years ago? I had to go extra long to get the width and even then they were meh. I then had some wide sidis for years and I didn't realise how much they were pinching my toes until I put on the Lakes.
Wide Lakes are made by angels who are above all reproach and free for any sin (in my theological opinion). Anyone who disagrees is a heretic and needs burning at a stake. But outside of the drought season, obvs.
I have some MX 175 (now the MX 176) and a pair of MX-1 for touring.