Gravel / Gravé / Gnarmac / Groad / ATB

Retro MTB frame? A lovely old kona and then 'gravelise' it!

Oh what about the all city space horse if you're in the US? they do 43 and 46 in 650b. Cosmic stallion and gorilla monsoon come in 46 too

islabikes?

good shout tbh

Spend the rest of the dosh specing it up a bit

Spotted outside Tesco in Angel. Owned by anyone on here...?

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Possibly @xkittyx ?

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My wheel-choice saga is nearing the end, I am almost decided on going for two wheelsets 650b slick and 700c knobblies, so I will both benefit from extra cushioning on road and hardpack and be able to try some CX races in winter. The only question left is: I want to buy cheap from Planet X, should I go for Clement Strada USH 1.75 (13 pounds each) or Panaracer Gravelking 1.9 (21 pounds each). From specs it seems that despite the difference in size both should weigh almost the same, which makes me think whether the beefer build of Clements will nullify the effect of less massive tyre. Any advice please?

It sounds like she needs a SPG (Short People Geometry) frame based on 26” wheels.
Check out @Hulsroys hustle thread in current projects for more info.

I think the 1.9 is much closer to standard 700c wheel diameter, you might find the change in handling and BB drop quite significant on the 1.75

Weird conclusions imho.

Set 1 (trails and cx) = big, treaded tyres in 650b

Set 2 (road) = smaller slick or file-tread tyres in 700c

Big slicks are plenty fast enough but much more comfortable.
Skinny tyres do well cutting through mud.

Just stick to big slick and knobby TBH.

plus islabikes are run by women and do good things for women in cycling. bonus.

all-city sizing is weird.

Also specialized/canondale womens sizing goes down to 43 and would be more women friendly.... e.g. the spesh diverge might be a decent shout (and available in the US)

In the beginning when I heard about 650 gravel thing I considered it in the same way as @miro_o, but later got concinced that wide 650b & narrow 700c knobby is the way to go.

As far as I have read somewhere in 650b 1.75/42c equals 700x23c in diameter and 1.9/48c equals 700x28c.

@edscoble and @PhilDAS I agree. But that doesn’t involve the two different sized wheelsets above.

700c knobby is the way to go.

CX mud tyres? Ok. Good for muddy UCI racing but smaller/fatter nicer for drier races and trail riding.

You need 3 wheelsets ;-)

wide 650b knobby is much better tho.

Is mud that big of an issue for you? Personally I find actual mud doesn't feature very often... CX tyres might be better on mud but actual gravel or dirt, rocks, roots, etc. you're better off on fat tyres. With aggressive knobs you can do mud too - just look at MTB. I have 700c/650b wheelsets too but view it more like road bike tyres and verging-on-MTB tyres, in which case you want fat off-road and narrow on road

If the stuff you're doing is more CX than gravel then I guess it makes sense to have 700c knobblies though

That Legor is very cool!

whats that 2nd one? i like that colour!

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