• I'd ask @TvH , as he has an Oka :-)

  • The PP's are great bikes, for sure. And quite different from the rest of the crop. Dunno whether what they say about the stay shaping actually makes any difference, but traction does seem good.

    Only thing that would put me off the Ritchey is the short reach, so if that doesn't suit you, then there are definitely worse frames to go for than the Shan.

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