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That's why I echoed @miro_o initial statement. Until the dynamic changes towards a more versatile bikes, I don't see Shimano pushing anywhere fast. Why rock the boat? Also Shimano is synonymous with a certain reliability that commands a premium.
The argument for electronic used to be pointless. Still is for the majority of users, but now look, everyone wants it. Shimano have always used the trickle down method of development, so I can see them just biding their time, and releasing a fit and forget product.
As for people fucking things up? I fix bikes for a living,so I'm afraid I beg to differ. Square leg, round hole mentality is rife!
You're giving humans far too much credit, so whilst I agree with you in principle, practically, I don't see Shimano changing that whatsoever. Why offer support, when you can just create a product that doesn't make you do so.@miro_o That's a personal observation from working in a few bike shops. Where I am now, It's road road road. En Masse yearly change for new road bikes.
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i don't see how it would hurt, they'd just sell more.
people still would care about having close spacing, and many people wouldn't want a clutch or a long cage, so they'd use road ss rds, and for q-factor, chainline, and ring size reasons you'd still have many different cranks and so on. there would just be some bikes that come oem with sram 1x that would instead have shimano 2x, and they'd have the enthusiasts like ourselves too.
apple is fucking annoying for the same reason of course. but there i think it actually makes sense. the more they lock things up and make them user-friendly the harder they are to fuck up and the better time people have. making road/mtb di2 interoperable would not really cause any problems in that sense.
one sense in which the apple analogy is completely opposite though is that they have good support for a bunch of unix tools (i.e., via homebrew and the clt) which has effectively stolen a bunch of developers that would otherwise probably be linux users. doing that didn't really hurt their main market either. i'm just saying shimano should do the same.