Wheelbuilding / Wheel Building / Wheel build help

So I've taken delivery of a pair of rims (dt r460db) for my first attempt at a wheel build. Hubs (shimano slx m6000) due Monday.

I have read that best practice is to measure both before ordering spokes. Are hubs more consistent? I.e. can I use hub measurements from the shimano site and measure rims to calculate spoke length so I can order today? Or best to wait til I have hubs in hand?

Are hubs more consistent?

The hubs will be the dimension Shimano intended, but the issue with rims isn't inconsistent manufacture, it's inconsistent measurement and sometimes unannounced design changes.

can I use hub measurements from the shimano site?

Mostly, but they are not infallible when it comes to transcribing from the manufacturing drawings to the published data

best to wait til I have hubs in hand?

In the end, yes.

Excellent, thanks for the advice, will be patient!

is that the roger musson one? how did you find the building process, easy?

Any advice whether I should lace the hubs I've mentioned on my previous post?

Yep, pretty simple. I'm a measure once cut twice, oh that's not quite right, it will probably be ok kinda DIY guy.

I only had some thin MDF for most of it (half his recommended thickness), a drill and a jigsaw. Turned out fine if a little wonky. When u put the wheel in it doesn't matter, as long as the wheel is held securely and generally straight. Made it loads easier. Hardest part was filling a nipple driver out of an old screw driver, but that turned out good too in the end.

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Yes that looks right. For disc brake wheels the front and rear left side the head in spokes pull when braking. The rear right is laced the same way.

If you alwsys build asymmetric I think that's the right way round starting right side rear and left side front then all wheels whether rim it disc brake are build correctly without having to think about it.

You worry to much.

Ha! Thanks, I’ll build them up then.

thanks man, reckon I'll give it a try!

Thanks for everyone’s input. I’m not dished correctly so that needs some work, I did move it a little but was a bit pushed for time having found a Philips screw in my car tyre which needed attention, this had no effect on the movement. But when I tightened the QR really tight (much much tighter than on my rim brake wheels) the movement all but went away.

Yes disc brake wheels have to be clamped tight. Think about it the braking force are trying to move the wheel in the dropouts.

What inner rim width would people recommend for the following:

29*2.4 MTB tyres
700*38 gravel tyres
700*30 gravel /road tyres

24-25mm

Nice one, but I mean for each one respectively.

Wouldn't it depend on what else you want to do on it? Would you ever fit 25mm tyres to the 700x30 gravel/road wheels, for example? Will you want to go bigger on the gravel wheels? etc.

but I mean for each one respectively

Still 24-25 for the 700C, 28-30 for the 29er

Has anyone tried the Halo entry level rims?
Halo White Line 700c Classic Road Rim

High quality, general purpose 700c rim.

The double wall box section provides huge strength, whilst the relatively low-profile shape provides a degree of vertical compliance comfort.
Stainless steel spoke eyelets help ensure an evenly tensioned wheel.
An excellent choice for those looking for strength and reliability over weight saving.
Ideal for City, Gravel, CX, Trekking and Touring.
Specifications
Material T-10 heat treated alloy
Drillings 32H or 36H
Eyelets Stainless Steel
ERD 607mm
Colour Silver or Black anodised
Dimensions 24mm wide
Weight 515g

https://www.tredz.co.uk/.Halo-White-Line-700c-Classic-Road-Rim_18729.htm

£20.99 a pop on TREDZ so inexpensive.

They look very similar to the Kinlin ADHN

I have ordered them as shipping is free.

I will report!

They look very similar to the Kinlin ADHN

Halo often do rebadged kinlin rims so it could be the same

I've got these Vince, built them up with some Miche RG2 hubs on my child transporterbike.
They look nice, build well, its a reasonably lightweight wheelset for what is essentially a hybrid.

Tredz fucked me over though, so I think I bought them from halo direct.

Does anyone have a source for spares for an Ambrosio Zenith front road hub?

I'm after the axle and a 'bearing cover' (or whatever that part might be called).

spares for an Ambrosio Zenith

@cycleclinic says they are Novatec A171, not that it helps much as Novatec spare parts support is close to non-existent too, but you may save a few quid when you bow to the inevitable and buy a new hub from which to take a transplant.

Novatec A171

Ah, that may well be handy. Thanks.