Rapha, nice but a bit pricey?

Anybody have a Rapha code they wanna give up?

Maybe Vista bought Giro et al because they don't like guns and are on a 20 year vision to swap all their gun business for stuff they truly believe in?

Is that beyond the realms of possibility?

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Ta!

If you don't want to buy something because the parent company does something you don't agree with, that's good. And applaudable.
(is that a word?)

Whether it makes a significant (measureable) difference is another thing, it will make a difference if enough people think the same way.

Personally, giro make shit shoes with shit laces so they don't get my money because of that.

For that reason I'm never going to a hospital again, as long as the nhs continues to employ you. I don't care how sick I get.

Can we focus on codes pls. Cheesus

sorry boycotting giro is a complete waste of time and has all sorts of negative externalities. if you care about gun control donate/vote for appropriate politicians. all of this other stuff is ancillary.

i mean if giro makes cargo bibs that don't cost, what 275us for the rapha ones? yea i'm going to buy them.

I’m confused. Are the cargo bib shorts designed with ammunition magazines in mind?

Tekkers, I'm not employed by the NHS.

#zombieapocalypseready

Oh hai. Ancillary motherfucker over here ... keen to hear how choosing Sidi shoes, or a Spesh helmet etc hits good people in the externalities more-so than buying from a company that helps finance the NRA?

it is symbolic sure but unrelated (ancillary) to any actual change on the issue. it would however hurt people unrelated to the issue (negative externality). so if the appearance of doing your bit to help things change is more important to you than letting giro employees keep their jobs then carry on, good job.

a good alternative is liking anti-nra posts on facebook or twitter.

Specialized are the wrong choice for a moralistic argument.

what are we, the modern equivalent of the archers on horseback? i can ride with no hands but idk about handling recoil.

i do however think a bunch of high cap mags and an ar-15 would mean i get close-passed less.

if you care about gun control donate/vote for appropriate politicians.

I can vote for the MP for Cambridgeshire East, my MEP and my local councillor. Pretty sure that regardless of how I vote, the UK will continue to have sensibly strict laws on gun control. If the USA has a problem with gun control, or a lack of it - and I'd be the first person to agree that they do - then that's for them to sort out. It's their country, it's a democracy, and if it needs changing it's their right and privilege to choose to change it.

yea i guess implicitly i meant if you are an american. i am and so do. there are all sorts of rules about foreign money/support and so on, as we are finding out...

though an inclusive website we are predominantly London cyclists and few will have ‘merkin voting rights. as such an option for us to express our displeasure is to vote with our money and not support firms who have ties to the arms industry.

if the appearance of doing your bit to help things change is more important to you than letting giro employees keep their jobs then carry on

It’s interesting to me that Giro profits support the NRA. I’m not alone. It’s not ok to wish the same info reaches others?

The idea of mass job losses is silly. Giro doesn’t manufacture anything does it? The money stays within cycling when choosing a different brand. The consumer still consumes, helmets and shoes still get bought. Giro are unlikely to lose significant market share as a direct result of actions by The Radavist - what percentage of global Giro helmet customers follow that blog do you think?

The value of Prolly to the brand is as an incubator for ideas/direction. Indy blogs are heavily referenced when developing products to meet new trends. And are followed by those in the industry.

As I said in my initial post what is missed is the potential to influence Giro talent. If being associated with gun brands is working against hiring for your business (Giro in this instance) then that has a knock-on effect on the value of gun brands in a portfolio.

^ a truly holiday-edition derail.

Socks are lit.

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You can’t vote in America
Your opinion doesn’t count

I can't vote in America.

But I'm not sure why I should be particularly bothered about domestic US politics anyway. Any more than I take a keen interest in Belgian, Zambian or Mongolian domestic politics, for example. If the citizens of the US want to have stupid laws, and vote for people who vote through stupid laws, then that's their business.

Belgian politics is pretty relevant to us at the moment, no?

Personally, giro make shit shoes with shit laces so they don't get my money because of that.

rapha x dhb dorica SS18