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PDW Bindle rack is the shit. You can toss anything in there, strap it down real good, and do all the bike maneuvering you want with no sway or instability. In my case i had a 20L drybag with my sleeping bag, with a kryptonite U lock and wire underneath. The rack itself weighs just as little as other bike packing seat harnesses. Cant recommend it enough!
As for the down tube bottle, do you mean the 1,5L nalgene on the bottom or the normal bottle on top? Right not its 3 King Cage universal supports holding the Velo Orange bottle cage on the bottom, where the top two are holding the normal alu bottle cage on top. All of which i felt was sufficient.