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• #952
have you ordered a full frame bag? should be a lot more efficient on that bike
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• #953
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• #954
Shit! @veganjoseph you've already booked your flights right?
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• #955
Wow!
Very disappointing for everyone who has entered, trained, planned around it, bought flights, etc.
Also a shame for Jesse, he's put a lot of work and some money into this.
It doesn't look like he's run that letter past his lawyers! He's kinda encouraging people to ride anyway which, if he has liability concerns, might not be the best approach. But I expect he knows what he is doing. -
• #956
Gutted for all involved
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• #957
In the fb group, Ryan Flinn says he's still going to ride it himself. He works for Curve, that is the events sponsor, so that sends a message.
But does the court accuse the organiser of the accident?
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• #958
Aw, that sucks.
I wonder if there's some liability for him that he's having to consider. Sounds like bullshit to me, bike-hating Aussie bastards.
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• #959
But does the court accuse the organiser of the accident?
That's the implication, that there is potentially some liability he is concerned about.
There always is the risk when you organise something. eg when I organise my club's reliability ride, we have organisers' liability insurance from CTC to cover anyone hurting themselves and sueing us. -
• #960
Yeah there's that, I understand, but I think that's not right really, with an unsupported race.
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• #961
http://www.adventurebikeracing.com/thesocialride.html
My name is Michael Wacker. I will ride my bike across Australia and I
invite you to join me individually. I will start on the 18th of March
2018 in Perth and cycle my bike under my own power all the way to
Sydney. I will share my adventure for friends and family on a tracking
website.If you want to join me and add your own tracking device to my map
please send me your tracking information to
"thesocialride@adventurebikeracing.com". It will cost me 25,- Euro to
add a tracker to the map, so please send me the money via paypal to
"thesocialride@adventurebikeracing.com". If you send me your name, the
tracker info and the money I will add you to the group on this
website. Latest payment would be the 28th of February! Note that this
is non profit!This is just for fun! We just start together on our own journey and
there will be no timing, prizes or rules. You will have to sign a
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• #962
Hahaha good ol' Wack Attack!
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• #963
hardly the most inspiring landscape for a fun social ride...
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• #964
That all depends on how you define fun.
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• #965
If you define fun as riding across a pancake flat, featureless desert into a constant headwind which carries the stench of a thousand dead kangaroos while being targeted by crazy drivers and eating shit food, then it is fucking ace.
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• #966
Yeah there's that, I understand, but I think that's not right really, with an unsupported race.
I agree. The level of cycling knowledge that judges and coroners have is so poor that Jesse / his lawyers must have felt the risk of an adverse finding was significant.
Reading his message, what he is doing is backing off all organisational support, like the event tracking system, the media cars, any further refinement of the route.
It would be incredibly harsh if Jesse ended up being blamed because a motorist hit a guy on a bike on a straight clear road with no other traffic present.
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• #967
It would be incredibly harsh if Jesse ended up being blamed because a motorist hit a guy on a bike on a straight clear road with no other traffic present.
Yet somehow totally unsurprising. Can't be blaming drivers, after all.
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• #968
Sounds like what may have happened is that Jesse had to pull it because he couldn't get organiser's liability insurance:
I think that the race's insurer will pay out any claim from Hall's
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• #969
Insurers are probably waiting for the result of the inquest before deciding if they're willing to insure it.
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• #970
"riding across a pancake flat, featureless desert into a constant headwind which carries the stench of a thousand dead kangaroos while being targeted by crazy drivers and eating shit food"
Sounds just like my childhood, though there weren't enough drivers to worry about until you got into towns and we had nice (for me) options for food. I definitely want to ride it. At the very least because I've never even been to WA.
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• #971
It would be incredibly typical if Jesse ended up being blamed because a motorist hit a guy on a bike on a straight clear road with no other traffic present.
ftfy
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• #972
You'll probably like WA.
I rode with a Victorian for a couple of hours on the way to Norseman. He said that the roads were better quality (there isn't a pothole in the state as far as I saw), the drivers are more considerate (relative) and you can descend on your aerobars at night without hitting an animal (because, apart from one cat in Freo and a few crows, there aren't any).
You might even like the food!
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• #973
Well, I'm not a vegetarian so that's gotta make it quite a bit easier to enjoy my meals and I LOVE iced coffee and I'm sure they'll have a ready supply of that. I've got a bunch of relatives over there, but we never visited them. Bit of a pity but that's my tightarse old man for ya.
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• #974
Sucks for you @veganjoseph - Are you going to look for an alternative race?
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• #975
Too late for alternatives. A lot of us that got in are showing up at the start location at the start time. We're going to have trackers too.
I've also used a "Space Bar" clamped to the base bar that extends downwards so I could then clamp my Exposure mount to that. It just cleared the headtube on my TT bike. You could borrow that mount too.