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  • Isn't it just the MAX OR tubeset? Quite a few frame builders used that on their MTBs (Pinarello Maxim, Kona explosif etc...) I didn't know it was that much heavier.

    @Scilly.Suffolk I kinda agree. I'm eyeing up a bargain on lbc atm but I'm not quite sure whether it's proper steel max or the max shaped altec. I asked the seller if he could test it with a magnet but he didn't reply yet.

  • Best way to see if it is steel or aluminum is to look at the dropouts. Steel dropouts are much more subtle than aluminum. Works quite well even for bad pics and pics taken from a distance.

  • Thanks for the tip. The dropouts indeed led me to believe it might be aluminium, they don't have cut-outs but they're not extremely chunky either. They look similar to the ones on the black altec above but also similar to the ones used on this foco steel frame:

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