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  • My dad voted tory. without the NHS my dad would have been dead a long time ago. I cannot reconcile in my head how one can rely on the nhs so much and also vote for that fucking shower of cunts.

    I think people need a bit of perspective with the whole Tory vs. NHS. I can't remember the last time I heard an actual Conservative MP express the sort of opposition to the NHS people make out. Even the couple of hardline neocon Tories I know actually want a systemic change in the NHS to something more like the Swiss model, rather than a US model.

    Yes, spending as a % of GDP is down, but fundamentally we spend more of our money on health than anything else, and people are using it more. Making out that there is a fundamental Conservative policy to destroy the NHS and kill people for cash is hyperbole. It reminds me of those same Tories framing middle class Labour supporters as being lazy underachievers who perpetually game the system and want everyone else to pay for their lifestyles.

    Like most things in politics incompetence probably plays a greater role than any great master plan.

  • Defunding public services is a political tactic. To claim it's mismanagement or incompetence is wrong. It's ideology.

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