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@anthonyj
...its stopped spasaming when i breath now -- so thats good -- thats with 400mg of ibuprofen since 8am and 1000mg of paracetamol since 6am, vodka will have to wait until i get home - as will Ginger, work doesnt appreciate that type of visitor - at least not until your director level - even though its a medical reason to increase bloodflow. roofers mean i've done more work in the past 2 hours that i have ever done in my career ;) curry for lunch!