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So will Froome now win Salbutamol Person of the Year?

But extreme exercise will increase the inflammatory response. Probs.
And cause exercise induced asthma.
possibly.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4653278/

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Because blood-bag. They didn't add that to their Salbutamol threshold calculations.

Cue loads of lab technicians/pharmacology students repeating :
"I don't tell you how to colour in/flip burgers/suck off my dad for 20 p".

Not likely to become SPOTY now...

Ha - imagine how much he'd have had to have in system at the time if blood bags were sufficient to get him twice the legal limit...

What needs to be taken into account is "Urine specific gravity" and I am pretty sure this would have already been done.

Essentially it's looking at the ratio of water to urine in a sample, and gives an indication of how well your kidneys are functioning. It would be normal to have a somewhat higher ratio if dehydrated (and/or exercised) - http://dx.doi.org/10.1002/dta.1828

I get that the exercise will induce his asthma (though it probably won't as he probably doesn't really have asthma) but I just expected that being active would mean things would get processed through the body more rapidly than if sedantry. @hippy has since informed me this is not necessarily the case.

Interesting read.

Someone (totally unqualified) saying in there that Salbutamol can mask Clenbuterol which can mask other things...

But Salbutamol is easily to detect and, as this case shows, it is easy to go over the set limit. Why would you use it as a masking agent?

The thread states that the set limit is high.

But athletes develop Exercise Induced Asthma.
That's pretty much why I linked the article I did.

Because your taking something else to mask the Salbutamol but forget to take it that day.
Because you think you can safely smash the Salbutamol and glide under the radar but get an extra dose in your blood bag.
Because you think Sky and Brailsford et al are powerful enough that you don't give a fuck about it being detected.

All other people's suggestions btw, I have no idea why you'd do it.

But athletes develop Exercise Induced Asthma.

Aye, when they discover salbutamol can hide clenbuterol which can hide... ;P

But seriously, I've never actually disputed the fact that exercise might mean you need to take your inhaler more often, I was only commenting that I thought being active would mean your body would process drugs more quickly.

I get you are saying "athletes, cor they must process everything faster".

I'm saying it's well documented (alright a 2 minute search with google and return the hit that backs up what I say) that elite athletes develop EIA. Which will provide the TUE / reason for taking salbutamol. I'm pretty sure IF there is drug taking going on it won't be around things that we know about.

I'm thinking specifically of the delivery of a syringe to WADA. If you don't know what to look for, you're not likely to find it.

"I get you are saying "athletes, cor they must process everything faster"."

Ok good.

"I'm saying it's well documented (alright a 2 minute search with google and return the hit that backs up what I say) that elite athletes develop EIA. Which will provide the TUE / reason for taking salbutamol. I'm pretty sure IF there is drug taking going on it won't be around things that we know about.
I'm thinking specifically of the delivery of a syringe to WADA. If you don't know what to look for, you're not likely to find it."

Ummm, alright, but since I never brought up the subject of EIA I don't know why you've been tagging me in your posts about it.

Because post 6584 suggests you're replying to me?

Eh? post 6584 is tester replying to Hippy almost 3 weeks ago?

My comments thus far,

#6671 "Isn’t one of the reasons salbutamol is restricted because it can be a masking agent?"
#6680 "A quick google of ‘salbutamol as masking agent’ returned discussion on a skiing forum amongst others." (reply to KWDM even though I didn't tag him in it).
#6696 "Not a doc but wouldn’t that make you process it faster if anything?" (reply to TurtleRecall).
#6699 "Every day’s a school day." (reply to Hippy).

And then you started telling me about EIA.

post 6584

Ignore count fail. :)

#6671
#6680
#6696
#6699

Multiple ignore count fails. :)

Because you think Sky and Brailsford et al are powerful enough that you don't give a fuck about it being detected.

Don't forget Cookson covering it up as president of the UCI at the time

I'd imagine the clinic is having a field day for a Sky/Brit rider having a positive not long after Cookson has left.

You mean post numbers are only for me and someone else who has more/less people on ignore sees different numbers?

Yes, haven't you followed the 'new page fail' controversy?

Posts are numbered sequentially after those by people you have on ignore are ruled out of the thread. This used to be different on vBulletin, which is why people still say 'new page fail' about something they've just posted if it appears on a 'new page' and they haven't quoted or 'replied to' so that it lacks context.