Non-cycling crashes that deserve attention

I drive on that stretch several times a week. This morning another lorry has gone through the central barriers on almost exactly the same bit of road - a bizarre coincidence

Are they just not reported most of the time or are there far more pile-ups at the moment than normally? Another fatal motorway crash. :(

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/man-60-killed-in-horrific-three-car-smash-on-m25-in-enfield-a3642161.html

Woburn Place just now; Bus, van, Ambulance and car

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Another car on the footway. Not being treated as terror-related:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/oct/07/car-hits-pedestrians-outside-natural-history-museum

It seemed fairly quickly that it wouldn't be terror related due to location.
The pictures are a bit confusing mind, can't see how the car ended up where it has.

There may be a follow-up to explain it. Driving errors can be quite bizarre.

Standard article:

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/south-kensington-police-descend-on-area-outside-natural-history-museum-after-car-hits-pedestrians-a3652986.html

Am I wrong to find it a little bit funny that they struggle to tell the difference between general motoring related carnage and a terrorist attack......

I suspect drivers race, gender and location were major factors. I'd guess the MET has high risk areas with quick/high response.

A prosecution and conviction for a killer driver (undoubtedly distressing footage, which I haven't watched, so proceed at your own risk):

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/shocking-moment-pedestrian-is-killed-by-speeding-driver-as-he-crosses-road-in-deptford-a3657326.html

This crash, in which a motorcyclist lost his life, happened where a pinch point was introduced some years ago that many cyclists and motorcyclists have complained about, even though I was told that it was introduced partly to reduce motorcyclist crashes at this point. I don't know whether that has been achieved, but it's tragic in any event.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/hackney-crash-motorcyclist-dies-in-crash-on-busy-road-in-east-london-a3664851.html

NB 'Woodberry Avenue' in the article should be 'Woodberry Grove'.

Anyone see that three way smash in Camden (a503 / Lyme street junction) yesterday evening (22nd Oct '17)?

Three vehicles seemingly completely demolished, one had mounted the pavement and struck a wall. I arrived before any emergency services were on the scene. Didn't stick around, but it seemed like there weren't any injuries, which seemed remarkable given the scene.

It's always awful when a small child is hit. :(

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/leyton-crash-nineyearold-girl-fighting-for-life-after-being-hit-by-car-in-east-london-a3665996.html

The horrific motorway crash in which a minibus and its eight occupants were obliterated has now come to court:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/oct/27/lorry-drivers-to-stand-trial-over-fatal-m1-crash

One of the big issues here is that the right turn from Green Lanes northbound to Seven Sisters road is banned so you get a lot of cars going straight on at the Manor House junction and then turning right across traffic to Woodberry Grove straight away.

I find the pinch point a bit annoying but traffic is normally going slowly enough there that you can get into primary without any issue so no-one tries to squeeze through with you. It would be better without it though.

Yes, as usual the main problem is area-wide traffic management. It's what influences driver behaviour the most. Banned turns are almost always bad; they're designed to maximise through motor traffic capacity on the dominant alignments, e.g. at Manor House from Green Lanes northwest to Seven Sisters Road southwest. As you say, that then leads to drivers trying to find other ways, e.g. rat-running along Woodberry Grove (in both directions--in the pattern you mention and also because other drivers come up Lordship Road and go to Green Lanes via Woodberry Grove.

I can't quite remember what the dominant crash pattern was at the Green Lanes/Woodberry Grove junction, but I think it was that rat-runners coming out of Woodberry Grove were hitting motorcyclists overtaking the southbound queue.

A very rare crash in which a driver died and not the pedestrian. From the picture it looks as if the car hit a wall, but it's not clear what happened. The driver may have tried to take evasive action and lost control, or had already lost control when he hit the woman and merely continued on his trajectory so that he hit the wall, if my reading of the picture is correct.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/deptford-crash-man-dies-and-woman-injured-in-collision-in-southeast-london-a3673001.html

That section of road is horrifyingly dangerous. That’s the third fatality there in the last 6 months I think.

It needs a long overdue redesign.

Yes, one of London's more objectionable attempts at 'let's build this up into something as close to an urban motorway as possible'. Rubbish design all over. I go through there quite often, don't really have any problems (I mainly do Greenwich High Road-A2-Brookmill Road-Friendly Street, where the main irritant is the stupid design of the Brookmill Road junction), but the severance alone that it causes must be terrible.

There has been at least one cyclist fatality there, I think, probably more. I can mainly remember one. We have two threads from there:

https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/172534/
https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/174806/

I can't remember when the fatality was, it may have been pre-'Rider Down' or even pre-LFGSS.

Two other interesting threads I just found:

https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/149211/
https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/177327/

It's obviously been of concern for quite some time.

I'm almost tempted to start a separate thread about drivers mounting the footway and injuring pedestrians:

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/commuter-flees-for-his-life-as-car-mounts-pavement-flattening-bus-stop-a3673771.html

And, as reported more widely:

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/covent-garden-crash-police-descend-on-tourist-hotspot-after-car-mounts-pavement-and-hits-pedestrians-a3674086.html

A nasty looking incident at the junction of Pentonville Rd and Battle Bridge/Cally this morning about 8. Smashed car stopped in the middle of the box, two ambulances with at least one person on a stretcher and a lot of armed police about. I couldn't tell if the collision involved a ped or a cyclist - no sign of a bike or another car. I think the armed police were there because they're the rapid response for the train stations and they were the nearest unit, not because there was anything involving guns. Still alarming to see so many about though.

A fairly bizarre crash at Clapton Pond tonight, with added video. I didn't see it, even though I was around there close to the time, just wondered what was going on in nearby streets.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/dramatic-moment-bus-crashes-into-vehicles-and-shunts-them-20m-down-hackney-road-a3687211.html

I can't really tell from the video, but it looks as if a car is going very slowly in the nearside lane just south of the bus stop and the bus driver injudiciously 'overtakes' but crashes into traffic queueing to turn right into Downs Road and strangely enough keeps going for a distance. Two minor injuries.

WTAF

Looks to have been very nasty
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/new-kent-road-crash-motorcyclist-killed-and-two-injured-after-van-smash-on-major-south-london-road-a3700381.html

This one hits very close to home--happened right outside my local corner shop and on a pedestrian crossing I campaigned for.

http://www.hackneygazette.co.uk/news/upper-clapton-road-death-police-want-witnesses-after-man-88-is-hit-by-lorry-at-pelican-crossing-1-5293053

Very sad.