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Doctor_Cake
Cheers, i think as @Errol experience it could just be one of those things, he did always have a heart murmur although we had him checked out 2 months ago and he had a clean bill of health. I've checked him over and there's no sign of an accident or interference, no vomit or bile and he was on the sofa where he likes to be and my understanding is that when a cat senses a problem they find a quiet spot. My girlfriend is home now and although very upset has agreed we should have him checked out so even if it turns out to be something unpleasant we'll have some kind of closure. i've wrapped him in his blanket and as the vet advised put him in the garage where it's cool.