The Vegan Thread

+1 for the tagine / falafel recipe as well

Was in Warsaw over the w/end...Youmiko Vegan Sushi there is great and we left with big smiles on our faces

https://www.facebook.com/youmiko.vg

I'd love to have a place like that in London. You hear so many great things about veganism in Warsaw. Quite apart from sushi like that, I love Eastern European cuisine and often cook in that style.

If it's not got meat in it, how do you know whether it's a shepherd's pie or a cottage pie?

Shepherdess pie is less of a loaded terminology than cottager's pie.

Shepherd's pie has a topping of mashed potato and cottage pie has a topping of sliced potato.

I tell you, it's the full expression of British culinary sophistication.

Does it really? I had no idea. I thought they were both mash and the difference was beef/lamb

i thought cottage pie had gravy in, shepherds pie just meaty juice, and came with gravy.

Wikipedia agrees with me:

The defining ingredients are minced meat (beef for cottage pie, lamb or mutton for shepherd's pie) cooked in a gravy with onions and sometimes vegetables, such as peas, celery or carrots, and topped with mashed potato.

Watch it, Labskausboy!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labskaus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FT3GsA38Pw

from about 7.25

(Fully realise Labskaus is not from your Land, :))

Wikiwhatever - make it up as you go along -

10 things you didn’t know about shepherd’s pie
By JAMIE O'LIVER.COM
a magnificent shepherd’s pie in episode four of Comfort Food, and it got us thinking about the dish.
Being the epitome of simple, homely comfort, the idea that there may be “more to know” about shepherd’s pie is mildly amusing. I should have known better, however. No matter how ubiquitous or basic you think a dish is, if it’s been around in a country’s food culture for a long time, chances are it’s got a few stories to tell.
shepherd's pie
Here are the best of the ones I came across when looking into a dish many of us have been eating for comfort our entire lives:
Let’s start with a fairly well-known one: there is a difference between “cottage pie” and “shepherd’s pie”, and it’s in the meat. Shepherd’s pie should only be named as such if it contains lamb, and “cottage” usually applies to one made with beef.
The name “cottage” was applied to this kind of meat pie around the time potatoes were being introduced in the UK, because they were an affordable for thing for peasants, many of whom would live in cottages, to eat. It seems a bit convoluted but hey, we’re always an odd bunch with our etymology.
The term “cottage pie” predates “shepherd’s” by nearly a century, but each was used synonymously with the other for a long time.
The Chilean version of “pastel de papa”, a dish similar to shepherd’s pie eaten in many parts of the world, also contains hard-boiled eggs, raisins and black olives.
The same dish in France is named “hachis Parmentier”, after the Frenchman who convinced his country to eat potatoes. “Hachis”, which takes its root from the English word “hatchet”, means a dish containing chopped or minced ingredients.
According to the Oxford Companion to Food, once upon a time, Scotland made its shepherd’s pies with pastry instead of mashed potatoes.
Indian cooks once considered shepherd’s pie to be a perfect dish for tiffin (a word used to mean a light snack in British India).
Many vegetarians and vegans call a meat-free version a “shepherdless” pie. Although Jamie’s vegetarian shepherd’s pie, with lentils and sweet potato, doesn’t keep the name, it’s an absolutely killer recipe and we’d recommend it to everyone.
Topping the potato crust with breadcrumbs actually turns your dish into a “Cumberland pie”.
Although variations of this dish crop up throughout history, no name for it came into use until the introduction of the mincing machine. Before that, the meat would have to be chopped by hand, or made from leftovers.

Oliver - this is the full expression of British culinary sophistication for starters :)

@Thrasher @richardshill
I don't really have a proper recipe for the Falafel topped tagine one, I just thow things together usually.
But as a rough guide I make the base mix the same as the recipe I posted but spice wise I use Allspice, Cinnamon (little) and smoked paprika.
I chuck in some sultanas and some chopped up dried apricots.
For the topping I use a couple of packet falafel mixes from the healthfood shop. I follow the instructions but make the mix a bit wetter so I can spread it over the top.
Then in the oven for 35/45 mins.
Give it a go, it's real good.

This Saturday, will report back :-)

So, it's about that time - where are we getting our vegan mince pies this year? Greggs, Waitrose Essentials and Sainsbury's Freefrom were all ok, iirc? Any new ones?

And what are we having on them? Anyone got recommendations for a good vanilla ice cream?

Hmm might try trusty greggs with the new ben and jerrys chocolate brownie.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0778805816/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

This finally arrived yesterday after ordering back in April. So stoked, got Christmas dinner covered and a whole swathe of stuff we’re gonna try over the next few weeks.
It’s more at the comfort/junk end of the scale but some damn fine looking stuff in there.

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Approved by carnivores lol

Yeah, it’s a bit gateway-vegan
There’s a lot of faux-meat type stuff in there but fuck it, her YouTube channel was invaluable to me and liz when we went full vegtard. The writing is pretty funny too.

Cool, will check it out.

Fuck me the fried chicken was tasty. The whole market was veggie or vegan too.

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Any tips for dinner in Camden? The new temple of seitan isn't open yet, right?

Where dis? Looks good

Levenshulme market.

Little far north possibly.