Pro-cycling thread

Finished it. JV gets properly roasted.

He doesn't come out of it well, does he?

Not at all. Given the image he portrays on social media . Weird guy.

Just seen this; http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/uci-to-investigate-gaimons-cancellara-mechanical-doping-accusations/

ha.

Cancellara wasn't that extremely fast there & then, Boonen was just too slow. Oh well, we'll see what it will bring.

Just listened to the Vaughters interview on the cycling podcast. He's something of a narcissist and seems driven by the belief his way is the right way. I can see how he has rubbed riders up the wrong way.

The interview isn't great. He took his wife along so he could talk about her career in wine a propos of nothing.

How do you effectively investigate claims of past mechanical doping? If there was a doped bike used, the chances that the frame would still be in existance is close to zero

Bigham and KGF just went sub-4 in Manchester and may be into the bronze medal ride off. Seems like a great underdog story to me but they're getting some pretty heavy criticism from Tony Gibb for some reason and poor Carlton doesn't know what's going on.

If you can’t say anything but positive things about what the lads behind KGF have achieved, then maybe life isn’t for you.

Daft isn’t it? How the fuck can you prove it 8-10 years after the event. Lappartient waisting everyone’s time.

Got to be seen cracking down on one of his major campaign promises!
Lots of eyewitness accounts taken of Cancellara having more power than his rivals aka winning

yes and no-that vid about cancellara's MSR win that went viral on youtube created the idea of mechanical doping for a lot of people who had previously never even believedor considered that it was a thing, and since then it's turned out to be real... so people are always going to look back at it and see that it's plausible.

I don't believe the vid per-se but do think his had actions at key moments are pretty strange and look like someone pressing a button.

All the other CSI-like conjecture of aerial helicopter speeds etc is moot without the bike tho so...

How much of that is confirmation bias though?

This is the interesting thing though-is it confirmation bias if it's a hypothesis that most people never even imagined plausible?

In that case it's confirmation of the surreal or the absurd. And sadly, the people who looked at that video in 2011 and thought it was bollocks are six years on looking at van den dries or Italian 3rd cat riders getting busted for motorised bikes and realising that it's entirely plausible such tech was in the pro peleton years and years ago.

All you need to find is a motor with Cancellara's DNA on. Simples.

I have no idea if Cancellara motor-doped or not, but what made me very suspicious of him, without thinking of motors, of course, was his performance at the 2009 Worlds TT in Mendrisio. I remember the moment he overtook Wiggins and just left him standing, and that didn't seem kosher to me. Granted, Wiggins wasn't going particularly well in that, but still.

Generally, I tend to be suspicious if people do too many things too well. That may be silly, but I've got the impression that it's what doping of whatever kind does.

Testimony?

It would need at least two people to detail what went on. And to break the omerta. Can’t see it myself.

Why is Gibb a Eurosport commentator. Surely they’d distance themselves from someone with road rage convictions. Really disappointed with Eurosport on the whole.

*rage

Was he done for drink driving?

I thought so much can’t find on google. Maybe it’s been removed.

Thought it was just the road rage. Are you thinking about another racer?

Nope pretty sure. But maybe I miss remember.

Tony Wright drink driving
Herschel Gibbs drink driving

Tony Gibb dangerous driving

Weird I trust my memory but must be wrong.