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  • So I'm thinking of getting a coffee machine + grinder for my upcoming birthday. Until now I've been strictly a pour over/aeropress kinda guy.

    I want to make Espresso, FW, Latte and usually for two people. Worktop space is at a relative premium. Budget as yet undecided but would be good to get options at different price brackets.

    @StevePeel @dancing james and anyone else help gratefully appreciated :)

  • You want something on the small side like this...

    Only about as big as a washing machine...

  • I had a La Pavoni Europiccola (wish I still had it but that story's not for the forum), it was great for 2 or 3 shots, but the steam wand needs a lot of practice - there are threads about modding them.

  • Get one of those pod things, coffee snobs love them

    runs away

  • Espresso machine: A second hand Gaggia Classic can be found on eBay for 100-150 quid, people often throw in extras such as milk frothing jugs and tampers. IMHO this is pretty much the best bang for your buck, considering there is a massive user base and therefore care, repair and upgrade tips and tricks and spare parts are easy to come by. Rancilio Silvia is similar.

    Grinder: I went for a Eureka Mignon, and can confirm it is tiny but great! I couldn't find any 2nd hand, so paid 300 quid new. Mazzer grinders are highly rated, but they're bigger and more expensive.

    You're likely to find the grinder to be a big improvement, so there is always the option of buying a good grinder now and keep pouring & pressing until you've saved up some more.

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